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From Rags to Riches (How to get rich quick) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg77873#msg77873
on: May 30, 2010, 03:20:39 AM
This guide is fairly outdated (version 1.23).  While most of the decks are still good, speed poison will probably not work in t50 anymore.  Also, there are probably more up to date guides around

EDIT: After spending time making this entire thread I realized that the poison rush was really really cheap.  If you want, you can skip AI3 grinding (Step 1) and move straight to Step 2 and grind t50 by making an account with a water mark and then making that deck.


Welcome to elements, this thread is meant to show newcomers how to go from a lowly AI3 grinder into a badass FG killer...

(this guide should be up to date at least for version 1.23)

Step 1: AI3 Grinding
For your first deck you should choose between either a "Shrieker Rush" or a "Mono-Life Rush" (also known as "Adrenaline Frog Rush").  The Shrieker Rush is based mainly on the Earth element with a little bit of Time thrown in, while the Mono-Life is based solely on Life.

If you choose Shrieker Rush, choose  TIME ( :time) when you first create your account.  You should receive a deck like this:
EDIT: You can now change marks for free so there is no need to choose time, choose earth (:earth) and try to make the shrieker rush deck below

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Now here are the steps you need to take to turn this into a "Shrieker Rush" deck:
1. Sell all your Darkness cards ( :darkness)
2. Buy a "Short Sword" from the Others section
3. Sell your 3 Quantum Pillars.
4. Defeat Lvl 0, Lvl 1, and Lvl 2.
5. Click "Quests", collect all the rewards that it allows you.
6. Buy 17 Stone Pillars ( :earth).  Add them to your deck.
7. Remove and sell all Non-Pillars from the deck except the short sword.
8. Buy 6 Graboids ( :earth) and add them to your deck.
9. Remove 6 Time Towers ( :time).  Sell.
10. Buy 6 Shriekers ( :earth) and add them to your deck.
11. Remove the rest of the Time Pillars and sell them.

Your deck should now look like this:
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Now, you start grinding.  Keep playing AI3 with that deck until you accumulate enough money to make whichever deck you choose in Step 2.

If you did not want to make a "Shrieker Rush", and wanted to make "Mono-Life Rush" instead, here's how you do it:

Choose Life ( :life) when you create your account.
You should receive a deck that looks like this:

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Now here are the steps you need to take to turn it into a "Mono-Life Rush" deck:
1. Remove then sell all Fire ( :fire) cards.
2. Buy maximum frogs (should be 3) and add them to your deck.
3. Remove and sell your 3 quantum towers and your dagger.
4. Buy and add max frogs (should be 1).
5. Remove and sell your Emerald Dragon and Thorn Carapace.
6. Buy and add 3 Cockatrices.
7. Remove and sell your Emerald Shield and your 2 Emphatic Bonds.
8. Buy Maximum adrenalines and add them to your deck.
9. Defeat lvl 0, lvl 1, and lvl 2.
10. Buy adrenalines until you have 6 total, add them to your deck, sell your 2 Heals, 2 Forest Spirits, 2 Rustlers.

You should now have this deck:
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Now, you start grinding.  Keep playing AI3 with that deck until you accumulate enough money to make whichever deck you choose in Step 2.

Step 2: T50 Grinding

For T50 grinding, I suggest 2 decks that work well.  One is a "Fire Golem Rush" and the other is a "Poison Rush".  The Fire Golem Rush will work faster, however it costs 1474 electrum as opposed to the Poison Rush's 626 electrum price tag.

The Fire Golem Rush looks like this:
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The idea is to use the immolations on the photons to gain quick fire quanta to play your Golems and Dragons.  You can grow the Golems using the earth mark.  Use the rage potion to either buff up your own creatures or kill enemy creatures.  If you want, you may add a fire shield.  If you obtain the rare card "Vampire Stiletto", I suggest you add it in and take the hammer out.

Poison-Rush looks like this:

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The idea here is to use poison to kill the enemy as quick as possible as poison avoids shields.  Use the freezes and Plagues to control the enemy creatures.  If you obtain the rare weapon "Arsenic" substitute it for a plague (if you have 2 substitute for both plagues).

Step 3: Grinding False Gods

Finally, after grinding and grinding you've reached the point where you'll become rich...
There are countless variations of False-God killing decks as shown in the False-Gods section of the forum http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,87.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,87.0.html)

However, I'm going to suggest two beginner False-God Decks and then show you how to evolve them into two of the most effective False-God decks in my opinion.


The first beginner False-God deck I would recommend is yaladilae's version of Essence's Duo FG Killer:

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This deck costs 5469 electrum because you need to upgrade the two Otyughs as well as the animate weapon in order for it to be effective.  You also must have 2 of the rare weapon "Titan", which you'll likely have acquired by now after farming t50 for a while.  However, do not just expect to play this deck and win lots of games, you'll likely lose some and you need to follow a strict strategy as outlined on this thread: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5656.0.html

Once you kill some FG's and acquire some upgraded cards, if you don't need the upgraded cards in the near future, I suggest you sell them.  First I would upgrade 4 Aether Pillars into Aether towers as that will help out with your current deck and help with the next deck.  Next, I would work towards upgrading a shard of gratitude and you can add it to your deck.  Now, accumulate enough money to upgrade 6 photons into Rays of Light, and you're ready for your next deck.

The next deck is called RoL/Hope and I think Seravy's version works best when it's not fully upgraded.  At this point you should be able to create a deck like this (note, you need 3 Lobotomizers):

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This deck also has a specific strategy, which can be found on this thread: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,6546.0.html.  When upgrading this deck, I would finish upgrading your pillars first, then the Lobotomizers ASAP and then I guess you could upgrade the fractals although you might want to upgrade a miracle or another SoG and try a different variation of RoL/Hope.  Ok, you made it, you can now grind FG's quickly and make money by selling their upgraded cards that you don't need.

If you don't feel like following that route, you can always go the Rainbow route.  Rainbow is a term in elements given to decks that utilize most (if not all) different elements.

The beginner rainbow that I would recommend is Scaredgirl's Time Rainbow (often abbreviated SG Rainbow):

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This deck costs 12354 because you need 4 upgraded hourglasses, 2 upgraded otyughs and an upgraded fallen druid.  Also, you need the rare weapon the Eternity.  Rainbow decks have their own special play style as well and for this particular one you should read this thread to figure out it's play-style and even practice on AI3 a few games: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1615.0.html

Eventually, you want to try to build PuppyChow's Entropy Rainbow, which is probably the most efficient at killing FG's:

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6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6rn 6rn 6rn 6rn 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u6 717 71b 71b 74b 74b 77f 7do 7do 7gp 7n3 7q5 7q5 7q8 7t9 80h 80h
Once again, for deck strategy see this thread: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,1748.0.html

Now you can grind FG's and sell unwanted upgraded cards to get rich.

Step 4: Be Creative

Now that you're rich you can do whatever you want.  You can try to make your own unique FG farming deck, you can make PVP decks, you can compete in tournaments, you can try to collect all the cards, have fun with it... good luck.

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Re: From Rags to Riches http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg77895#msg77895
Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 04:00:12 AM
I'm now looking forward to making PuppyChow's

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Re: From Rags to Riches http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg77922#msg77922
Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 04:53:44 AM
1stly, this should be elsewhere, wrong section

2ndly, get some heal in that life deck, EM is very very good =)

3rdly, I wouldnt recommend puppy's rainbow that much, because of oty nerf

4thly, always up the lobo before the tower in rol/hope its better =)

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Re: From Rags to Riches http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg78347#msg78347
Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 10:25:46 PM
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1stly, this should be elsewhere, wrong section
It's moved now. Yay!

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2ndly, get some heal in that life deck, EM is very very good =)
Well, it's intended to be a speed deck. As it is, it's fine. Replacing 3 Cockatrices for Heals can help you EM, but it also slows the deck down... it's arguable.

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3rdly, I wouldnt recommend puppy's rainbow that much, because of oty nerf
The Otyugh nerf barely affected anything. It's a very small price to pay for a devastating creature. I still say that Puppy's Rainbow AHEM: FG Rainbow w/ SoGs, Supernovas, Entropy mark, 34 Cards, Permafrost, V1.22 Tested is the best FG Rainbow for 1.23.

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Re: From Rags to Riches http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg78353#msg78353
Reply #4 on: May 30, 2010, 10:34:46 PM
I would repplace 1 or 2 aderaline for heal, having too much aderaline clogs up your hand

And the rainbow part, i was more thinking rol/hope is better then rainbow now.
The oty nerf can get annoying certainly at times!

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Re: From Rags to Riches (How to get rich quick) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg78367#msg78367
Reply #5 on: May 30, 2010, 11:19:59 PM
Lol What 'bout Butterfly angel from yours Yaladilae?

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Re: From Rags to Riches (How to get rich quick) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg78370#msg78370
Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 11:23:17 PM
Lol What 'bout Butterfly angel from yours Yaladilae?
Its still very solid =)

Just prehaps oty in general (note: not rainbow) is not as good as rol hope in general now

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Re: From Rags to Riches (How to get rich quick) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg78378#msg78378
Reply #7 on: May 31, 2010, 12:00:21 AM
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Just prehaps oty in general (note: not rainbow) is not as good as rol hope in general now
Wait... you're comparing a card to a deck. :P

I really don't think this effects Otyughs much at all. Sure it's annoying, but how many FGs carry creatures that actually do this? Not many, and many of them have a negligible amount.

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i was more thinking rol/hope is better then rainbow now.
Well... it's certainly a lot faster, but its winrate is still nowhere close. It is a good change of pace and isn't bad, but Rainbow is still the way to go. It's slowly but surely getting challenged, though.

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I would repplace 1 or 2 aderaline for heal, having too much aderaline clogs up your hand
Eh. Adrenaline is the cornerstone of the mono :life rush deck... I'd rather take out Cockatrices.

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Re: From Rags to Riches (How to get rich quick) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg78497#msg78497
Reply #8 on: May 31, 2010, 04:28:34 AM
If you choose Shrieker Rush, choose TIME ( :time) when you first create your account.
I think with the free mark change you would be better off choosing Earth now for Shrieker Rush.  It might be less confusing.

Directions for ya:
Take out and sell Hematite Golem, Stone Dragon, Titanium Shield, Enchant Artifact, and the 2 Earthquakes.
Buy 4 Stone Pillars and 4 Graboids and insert into deck.
Take out and sell 1 Quantum Pillar, all green cards, and all Earth creatures except Graboids and Shriekers.
Buy 3 Shriekers and insert into deck.
Change mark to Time (no cost).
Defeat Lvls 0-2 and claim all quests.
Buy 2 Shriekers and insert into deck.
Take out and sell 1 Quantum Pillar and Dagger.
Buy Short Sword and insert into deck.
Take out and sell last Quantum Pillar.

And the rainbow part, i was more thinking rol/hope is better then rainbow now.
I agree with this.

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Re: From Rags to Riches (How to get rich quick) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg78539#msg78539
Reply #9 on: May 31, 2010, 05:23:14 AM
and that rol/hope deck didnt look to health.

-1 hope
+1 luciferin
-1 aether pillar
+1 light pillar
-1 fractal
+2 SoG

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Re: From Rags to Riches (How to get rich quick) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg83729#msg83729
Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 08:40:01 AM
and that rol/hope deck didnt look to health.

-1 hope
+1 luciferin
-1 aether pillar
+1 light pillar
-1 fractal
+2 SoG
luciferin is practically useless in this deck and i've done hundreds of games testing with it.
light pillar - same thing, useless.

also, He was trying to show an unupgarded version of the deck so not everyone has a ton of SoG lying around, especially if they're trying to run a bare bones FG deck. In general, this deck is significantly less effective unupgraded and i wouldn't recommend it unless you can upgrade about 2/3 of the cards to begin with.

There is a thread on this for more info:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,3993.0.html

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Re: From Rags to Riches (How to get rich quick) http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7192.msg106608#msg106608
Reply #11 on: July 02, 2010, 10:27:20 PM
Unionruler's FG Deck > All FG decks  :P


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