Neptune: Needs Help NOW!

[geekz_always_win]

Neptune needs help. It's official. He is THE WORST GOD IN FG history.  Neptune is hands down the easiest false god, even worse than Incarnate. Suffers terribly from rainbow decks along with Incarnate, Fire Queen, Osiris, and Paradox. But Incarante and Fire Queen I have lost to, and Osiris kills lots of decks, it's a shame permafrost shields just stops him the whole game. I have NEVER lost to Neptune. His performance against CCYB is atrocious.



I had 15 cards left in the screenshot. I had a CCYB with one aflatoxin and a Jade Shield replaced with a Permafrost, and that means 36-7 (opening hand)= 29; 29-15=14. He had 14 turns, and could not even get out more than 3 monsters. Just 2 abyssal crawlers and 1 octopus. And if you have good eyes, you can see that the crawlers are antimattered. By all definitions of fail, that's one. Neptune is literally CRYING for help. Mono-aether even unupped beats him, and for ROL+Hope, he doesn't get inundation out fast enough and Neptune loses I would say about 1/4 of the time.

Any suggestions? My ideas so far are:

-Scratch the water/air duo, make him water/earth. Give him lots of posiedons and try for a denial thing like seism. (maybe animate weapons too?)

Just a rough sketch

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3x mark, 2x cards and draw

-Again, scratch the water/air duo. Water/fire duo, taking advantage of steam machine is nice. His brother was like Hephaestus so that might work out. Lots of steam machines and mark of fire with water pendulums. Explosions, fire lances, all the stuff that annoy rainbow decks.

Example (not tested or anything, mocked up in 10 minutes.

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3x Mark, double cards and draw.

Rage Elixers aren't for CC, but to take advantage of the Steam Machine's 15 health (it doesn't need that much)

[Baily18]

Neptune is just one of those gods that are bad against rainbows. i do agree that his AI should be improved slightly though, and maybe lower the cc a little for some damage. his AI will for example, shockwave shockwave then freeze, or shockwave freeze shockwave.

[Kuross]

There are a few FGs out and about that are super easy/hard depending on the deck you are using. Neptune is one of them. RoL/Hope is a common FG deck and it runs into a lot of trouble coming up against Neptune.

[geekz_always_win]

There are a few FGs out and about that are super easy/hard depending on the deck you are using. Neptune is one of them. RoL/Hope is a common FG deck and it runs into a lot of trouble coming up against Neptune.

Not really, he rarely gets out an inundation fast enough. The majority of his CC is congeals and shockwaves and he only had about 10 shockwaves I think so two fractals and he's out of CC. Congealing rays doesn't hurt Hope.

[Kuross]

There are a few FGs out and about that are super easy/hard depending on the deck you are using. Neptune is one of them. RoL/Hope is a common FG deck and it runs into a lot of trouble coming up against Neptune.

Not really, he rarely gets out an inundation fast enough. The majority of his CC is congeals and shockwaves and he only had about 10 shockwaves I think so two fractals and he's out of CC. Congealing rays doesn't hurt Hope.

Neptune's AI will trigger a Flooding when about 5+ creatures hit the table. When the Flood hits, the player is forced to deal with only 7 creature slots to build up enough Light to spam Dragons/Angels. A lot of the time Neptune gets off Permafrost and/or Owl's Eye which will negate the RoLs.

Neptune is beatable with a RoL/Hope deck, but he's very tough for that deck to compete against.

[geekz_always_win]

There are a few FGs out and about that are super easy/hard depending on the deck you are using. Neptune is one of them. RoL/Hope is a common FG deck and it runs into a lot of trouble coming up against Neptune.

Not really, he rarely gets out an inundation fast enough. The majority of his CC is congeals and shockwaves and he only had about 10 shockwaves I think so two fractals and he's out of CC. Congealing rays doesn't hurt Hope.

Neptune's AI will trigger a Flooding when about 5+ creatures hit the table. When the Flood hits, the player is forced to deal with only 7 creature slots to build up enough Light to spam Dragons/Angels. A lot of the time Neptune gets off Permafrost and/or Owl's Eye which will negate the RoLs.

Neptune is beatable with a RoL/Hope deck, but he's very tough for that deck to compete against.

If you look down the list of almost non-upgraded FG lists, Neptune is usually a target on the list and excluding ROL-Hope, any FG deck crushes him in the upgraded section.
So excluding RoL-Hope, I can't find a FG deck that consistently loses to Neptune.

[Kuross]

I know, I've played many types of decks against Neptune. Point I was trying to make is that with the high pecentage of RoL/Hope decks people use Neptune's usefulness is in it's capability to be a decent counter. Neptune can be beaten by RoL/Hope, but it's not an easy fight. I see Neptune being a good counter to RoL/Hopemuch like Dark Matter is vs rainbow decks.

[BC]

If it helps with any, nymphomania is another somewhat popular FG deck that is not so good against neptune, mainly because of the permafrost shield.

[Kakerlake]

I always knew that Neptune was one of the weakest FG's and he usually has his hand cluttered with useless stuff. But I thought I didn't see right when I took a glance at his hand:
Inundations and lots of it!
I didn't realize until then that he actually has 8 Inundations in his deck! Totally useless.

One first improvement for Neptune would be to scrap a couple of those and add some hitters or towers. Also, I wondered what that Poseidon is doing in his Deck when he has no chance of getting any ?

[QuantumT]

I still think destiny and paradox are easier than neptune. Neptune at least gives problems to RoL/Hope. Destiny and paradox are almost always a joke.

[Malignant]

I think Vrt made Neptune. You can go and nag at him.

[Kuross]

Also, I wondered what that Poseidon is doing in his Deck when he has no chance of getting any ?

I believe this is the only FG that has Poseidon in it to win. Notice every other rare weapon is winnable in an upped form. If not for Neptune, there'd be no upped Poseidon to win. Just an observation. Perhaps plug it a FG that can actually use Posiedon or make a FG that can use and ? Also, keep in mind other FGs run weapons they can't use. Take Seism for instance. He runs Pulvy, but doesn't have the gravity to use it.