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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg135934#msg135934
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2010, 05:16:21 pm »

I don't mind the change but I think it will push out the gap between Rainbow God Killers and other variations that can't genererate generic quanta as quick.

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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg135936#msg135936
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2010, 05:18:03 pm »
I don't mind the change but I think it will push out the gap between Rainbow God Killers and other variations that can't genererate generic quanta as quick.
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We need some way to let shards be just as viable in mono/duos as they are in rainbows, but still nerf the shards at the same time.
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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg135944#msg135944
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2010, 05:27:36 pm »
I don't mind the change but I think it will push out the gap between Rainbow God Killers and other variations that can't genererate generic quanta as quick.
qft

We need some way to let shards be just as viable in mono/duos as they are in rainbows, but still nerf the shards at the same time.
I made a suggestion that generic costs should all come from a single element. This breaks nova's excessive gain and means that a quanta tower has to give you a patterned production to match a mono/duo decks generation.

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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg135955#msg135955
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2010, 05:45:48 pm »
As written in those two threads:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10653.msg140841#msg140841
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10246.msg145058#msg145058

I'd prefer to nerf effect it does, instead of trying to nerf its cost. 1 other quanta for 3 healing that Puppy suggested first, seems like a good solution.

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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg136232#msg136232
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2010, 10:09:28 pm »
I tihnk this is a good decision.  I also think it won't change much. :)
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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg136321#msg136321
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2010, 11:47:59 pm »
I welcome the change, but could make an argument that it should be increased to 4, that way it takes more than a single quantum tower to play.

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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg136346#msg136346
« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2010, 12:10:43 am »
I tihnk this is a good decision.  I also think it won't change much. :)
It's just the cumulative effect it's having on FG farming that i'm bummed about. 1 quanta here, 1 quanta there.... Most of my score is based off of FG farming and with each rainbow "nerf" the effect gets worse and worse. With that said the SoG definitely needed a nerf and maybe even a further change.


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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg136714#msg136714
« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2010, 02:46:35 pm »
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo *run away crying*

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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg136755#msg136755
« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2010, 04:00:53 pm »
I say leave it alone.  The first time I saw this card was after I had donated some $, at the time I think it was the only way to get it.  It was a thank you from Zanz for helping fund the game.  Nerfin' this would sort of hose those of us who have shown our support.

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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg136871#msg136871
« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2010, 06:30:50 pm »
Nerfing SoG really hurt the efficiency of some of my mono decks.  Ah well.

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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg136877#msg136877
« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2010, 06:39:28 pm »
I say leave it alone.  The first time I saw this card was after I had donated some $, at the time I think it was the only way to get it.  It was a thank you from Zanz for helping fund the game.  Nerfin' this would sort of hose those of us who have shown our support.
If you feel that you got hosed by this nerf, then you didn't really donate to support the game, you just bought shards for $5 each.

Nobody gains from Elements being an unbalanced game, and Shard of Gratitude was clearly over-powered when compared to other healing cards. I personally think it might still be a bit over-powered but we'll see. This is a good start at least.

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Re: Shard of Gratitude will have its cost increased to 3 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2023.msg136909#msg136909
« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2010, 07:46:19 pm »
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If you feel that you got hosed by this nerf, then you didn't really donate to support the game, you just bought shards for $5 each.
Nah...When I donated back in early August 2009 , I didn't know you got a card for it, I just thought it was a really sweet TCG game, especially since it is free, and figured it was a game well worth giving over some money.  After the donation, I received a message from Zanz that there was a new card in my card pool.  And just so you know...my initial donation was $20 and I only got 1 SoG, so I thought getting the card was just Zanz's way of saying thanks.

 

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