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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg406511#msg406511
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2011, 05:22:15 pm »
i dont see the conflict of having antimatter and/or liquid shadow applied to it in any way.  in other words- they do what they normally would do.
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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg411726#msg411726
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2011, 01:22:06 am »
This is a clever idea. But I reckon it's just a little OP. I'd like to see this work. Maybe a little less HP or strength, or a little higher mana cost.

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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg417498#msg417498
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2011, 06:31:27 pm »
This is a clever idea. But I reckon it's just a little OP. I'd like to see this work. Maybe a little less HP or strength, or a little higher mana cost.
Why do you think it is OP? Compare it to Charger.



Immortal is often seen (reasonably so) as subpar to Phase Dragon. Psionist might further marginalize Immortal. Depending on the severity this might create a new problem.
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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg417622#msg417622
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2011, 10:25:58 pm »
i dont have a problem with immortal, personally.  it is a low cost immaterial creature that can provide damage while dim shield is up, and not draining the quanta too much, like phase dragon, to keep the dim shield chain going if you do have have excess pillars.

immortal is strong defensively and as such provides consistent offense for less cost than phase dragon.  psion is weaker defensively than immortal, but provides for a mechanism that may provide better offense, but with the drawback of potentially damaging their owner.  if anything, i would think they would function well together in a deck with dim shields, or separately in other decks.
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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg417630#msg417630
« Reply #40 on: October 29, 2011, 10:37:09 pm »
i dont have a problem with immortal, personally.  it is a low cost immaterial creature that can provide damage while dim shield is up, and not draining the quanta too much, like phase dragon, to keep the dim shield chain going if you do have have excess pillars.

immortal is strong defensively and as such provides consistent offense for less cost than phase dragon.  psion is weaker defensively than immortal, but provides for a mechanism that may provide better offense, but with the drawback of potentially damaging their owner.  if anything, i would think they would function well together in a deck with dim shields, or separately in other decks.
Theoretically Immortal is slightly weak compared to Phase Dragon. (see the buff thread for details)
Theoretically Psion is balanced and at a damage slot similar to Immortal. (Psion uses Evasion rather than Counterdefense)

I expect Psion to replace Immortal in most decks containing Phase Dragon. Would that leave Immortal with sufficient usage remaining?

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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg417634#msg417634
« Reply #41 on: October 29, 2011, 10:47:00 pm »
yeah, the damage/cost ratio of immortal is inferior to phase dragon, but you can in the same turn play both dim shield and an immortal in many situations where you could only play one of the two (phase dragon or dim shield).  so the lower cost actually in one sense is a benefit to immortal. not saying it couldnt use some love, but it does have at least one upside over the dragon.

phase spider already exists as a better atk/cost ratio creature than immortal.  so basically after adding in psion, you would have a choice between immortal, psion, and phase spider for a mid cost creature.  and as such there are a myriad of things to consider when picking from amongst them in terms of which one, or two, of them would best suit your deck.  do you need a creature for a stall deck? is wings part of that stall deck? does your deck not have a means to get around shields? do you want to minimize your creature's vulnerabilities? etc etc
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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg471295#msg471295
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2012, 03:01:18 am »
A new Aether Shard called Shard of Wisdom is made.

The mechanics is similar to this card :)

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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg471297#msg471297
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2012, 03:04:50 am »
A new Aether Shard called Shard of Wisdom is made.

The mechanics is similar to this card :)
Indeed, according to Zanzarino SoW is based on this card.  It will probably be moved to the Reliquary soon, assuming it was a significant influence on Zanz.

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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg471299#msg471299
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2012, 03:06:10 am »
Indeed, according to Zanzarino SoW is based on this card.  It will probably be moved to the Reliquary soon, assuming it was a significant influence on Zanz.
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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg471340#msg471340
« Reply #45 on: March 16, 2012, 04:39:22 am »
A new Aether Shard called Shard of Wisdom is made.

The mechanics is similar to this card :)
Indeed, according to Zanzarino SoW is based on this card.  It will probably be moved to the Reliquary soon, assuming it was a significant influence on Zanz.
Nice. Through the efforts of Idea Factory member moomoose, an idea created in the Idea Factory has impacted the game.
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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg471348#msg471348
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2012, 04:56:45 am »
Yes, this thread will be moved to the Reliquary as soon as the new version goes live. Congratulations, moomoose!
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Re: Psionist | Psion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28117.msg472850#msg472850
« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2012, 02:23:08 am »
Obviously I love the idea, would you say this was inspired by Shard of Knowledge http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28846.msg394171#msg394171 or Psion http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,28117.0.html ?
The shard was inspired by Psion, but, clearly, modified quite a bit. It is also not excluded, since the mechanics are now coded, that psion could be added to the game in a form more similar to the original idea.
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