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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg59848#msg59848
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2010, 12:46:12 pm »
An alternative for this card (which would shamefully discard the art... or perhaps not) would be an endow spell that allows you to attach your current weapon to any creature. It might get away with the same art, alternatively it might use an image of a weapon being passed down from one hand to the hand of another.

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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg60653#msg60653
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2010, 04:39:18 am »
As for the Long-Sword. A better drop is Archangel or Light Nymph and Morning Glory.
You only need the one weapon to hit play, you haven't wasted slots on the superfluous Long-swords and you can drop the higher more useful Nymph or Angel straight in at full strength.
Actually, Long Sword is a very inexpensive option, and will only take up 2-3 slots in an aggressive deck, still allowing room for a full 6 Archangels. I'd rather play a Long Sword with three Crusaders in play than a Morning Glory or a single Light Nymph.

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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg61138#msg61138
« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2010, 09:40:27 am »
As for the Long-Sword. A better drop is Archangel or Light Nymph and Morning Glory.
You only need the one weapon to hit play, you haven't wasted slots on the superfluous Long-swords and you can drop the higher more useful Nymph or Angel straight in at full strength.
Actually, Long Sword is a very inexpensive option, and will only take up 2-3 slots in an aggressive deck, still allowing room for a full 6 Archangels. I'd rather play a Long Sword with three Crusaders in play than a Morning Glory or a single Light Nymph.
Guess its taste. Until a Longsword hits play the Crusader is a very overcosted unit. With  the Nymphs I never need to wait for the Long sword to be doing the extra damage and it doesn't cost any more than the Crusader. I wouldn't be swapping in Crusader to replace an Archangel or Nymph (in a deck without an ability enhanced weapon) and I'm not looking for another creature to fill a slot. To me in regards to damage dealing its a coaster.

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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg61150#msg61150
« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2010, 11:05:19 am »
I think its a decent card.  It may not be perfect.  But neither is anything else in the game.  You have to use strategy to work around that.

imo, when there's an update, I think Zanz likes to add similar cards to all elements, like that time when he added all the potions.
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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg61210#msg61210
« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2010, 02:46:32 pm »
i like this card and there would been pretty great combos thats why i think its good is becouse itself cant destroy a deck or been op you need to make a whole deck around this card and this is why i like the deck

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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg61220#msg61220
« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2010, 03:26:29 pm »
Guess its taste. Until a Longsword hits play the Crusader is a very overcosted unit. With  the Nymphs I never need to wait for the Long sword to be doing the extra damage and it doesn't cost any more than the Crusader. I wouldn't be swapping in Crusader to replace an Archangel or Nymph (in a deck without an ability enhanced weapon) and I'm not looking for another creature to fill a slot. To me in regards to damage dealing its a coaster.
Your words are exactly why I made it cost what it does. At 5 :light, Crusader doesn't really deal much damage, but once it uses its ability, deals considerable damage. Let us say that you have a starting hand of 2 Light Tower, 2 Elite Crusader, 1 Archangel, 1 Improved Blessing, 1 Long Sword (mark of Light). Even if you don't draw another tower for a few turns, you can play your Crusader on turn two, then Long Sword/Endow on turn three, dealing 15 damage in total from two cards. I do understand what you mean, though. It's a bit like Wyrm - good stats, decent cost, medium ability cost. If it doesn't cost what you think it should cost, then what do you think I should change the casting/ability costs to?

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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg62828#msg62828
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2010, 06:49:55 pm »
Ether-light, fractal this, and copy the opponent's weapon. haha, they won't even see what hit them.

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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg62865#msg62865
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2010, 07:32:32 pm »
I'm not really a fan of the Human presence in Elements. I sort of like that anything Human is insignificant to the whole deal. I like the art but would suggest that the creature be an Angel or mystical beast of some kind.
I'd have to agree with Kael on this, there are no humans so far so why would zanz want them? I mean there are some humanoids as in the gnome gemfinder, fallen elf/druid but there are no humans. Maybe if it was an enchanted suit of armor or something

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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg62890#msg62890
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2010, 08:08:01 pm »
I think it would be a shame to waste all the time and effort into this art just because of a minor tradition. It fits well with light and adds more possibility for combos with that element.

Besides, a crusader is more than just human.  It has a sort of religious/ethereal feeling associated with it.  I might not have said that exactly right, but you know what I mean.  A crusader is somehow more than human. 
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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg63015#msg63015
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2010, 11:01:28 pm »
jmizzle7, usually a card does not decrease in cost AND increase in stats for an upgrade. Just saying...


This in a Light-Fire deck... sooo many faren.... But then again, animate weapon can do that too...
Interestign concept, but instead of human, it could be the spirit of a human trapped in an armour without a weapon??

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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg63030#msg63030
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2010, 12:09:33 am »
Ether-light, fractal this, and copy the opponent's weapon. haha, they won't even see what hit them.
Yeah It seems like the starting hp is too high. If you fractal and have to wait 1 turn to use the ability, you basically don't have to fear a firestorm or otyugh at all. That makes it really hard to stop a fractal/elite crusader deck before you have 4 crusaders who all are doing 5-11 damage...

Lets say you are running light aether and have 8 light pillars out with 15 light quanta ready. You play fractal on the elite crusader, play 3 more crusaders and wait one turn. You now have 8 light quanta, enough to give each one of these creatures a dragon status attack for only 7 quanta total after the endow.

7 quanta seems a little too cheap for a dragon level character that is hard to kill before it gains +2 life.

Anyhow, I really like the card. Can we tweak it so it start's off weaker (2|3 / 3|4) or costs more?

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Re: Crusader | Elite Crusader http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5815.msg63032#msg63032
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2010, 12:10:30 am »
oops... okay or maybe cost like 7 to start with so after the 2 for endow it costs 9, which is more in line with a dragon...

 

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