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Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg363501#msg363501
« on: July 10, 2011, 01:36:47 am »
NAME:
Tunneling
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Your burrowed creatures ignore most shield effects
NAME:
Tunneling
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
2 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Your burrowed creatures ignore most shield effects
ART:
public domain:
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IDEA:
moomoose
NOTES:
a minor buff to burrowed shriekers and antlions

the shields which cannot be ignored include: wings, phase shield and hope.
SERIES:
moose dont say moo.

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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg363510#msg363510
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2011, 01:46:27 am »
Most? Could you be any more nondescript?

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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg363522#msg363522
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2011, 01:58:27 am »
What about calling the upped version "Quantum Tunneling" and ignoring all shield effects?

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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg363525#msg363525
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2011, 02:09:13 am »
Most? Could you be any more nondescript?
I'm fairly certain that the shields not ignored are Phase Shield, Wings, and Hope. (This is from moo himself, on his proposed Antlion buff that probably inspired this. No way to know for certain until he responds, though.)

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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg363561#msg363561
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2011, 03:31:45 am »
Lovely criticism as always Uppercut.  Listing all shields would be cumbersome and likely impossible.  However, I'm not sure there really can be any mass-Momentum type card, even with as little coverage as this one.  Also, I understand the logic but not the gameplay-balancing of making a weaker form of Momentum.

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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg363563#msg363563
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2011, 03:34:26 am »
Sure it'd be cumbersome but it isn't even in the notes. This card could be read to mean just damage reduction effects since damage reduction is on most shields.

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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg363565#msg363565
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2011, 03:34:46 am »
the shields which cannot be ignored include: wings, phase shield and hope.

this mass semi-momentum balance is aided by the fact that it only applies to burrowed creatures, and burrowed creatures have their attack reduced by 50%.

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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg481820#msg481820
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 12:29:01 am »
Antilons getting some love :)
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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg485227#msg485227
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 01:57:41 am »
So burrowed creatures wont lose HP from Firewall, and wont get infected from Thorn Carapace?
Cool card, though it would make the AI more deadly because they burrow creatures as soon as they can. It works well with Drake_XIV's Swallet/ Droline http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,37454.0.html.
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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg485424#msg485424
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2012, 04:22:25 pm »
But this would probably get nerf/buff to affect both side not just your own
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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg487627#msg487627
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 03:13:46 am »
Makes earth bit 2 strong. Gives is both momentum, quint, besides the fact that tunneling is permanent, and PA is earth card... And shrieker rush is one of the fastest killers itself. 
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Re: Tunneling | Tunneling https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=28453.msg487730#msg487730
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 10:38:59 am »
Makes earth bit 2 strong. Gives is both momentum, quint, besides the fact that tunneling is permanent, and PA is earth card... And shrieker rush is one of the fastest killers itself.
It is only momentum against some shields and it has 1/2 damage for that boost
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