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Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1211176#msg1211176
« on: October 18, 2015, 08:59:21 PM »
NAME:
Shaman
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 3
TEXT:
:water :water :water : Rain dance
Target unoccupied creature slot is flooded for 2 turns.
Shaman is delayed for 1 turn.
NAME:
Healer Shaman
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 3
TEXT:
:air :air : Icaro
Target gains 1 Purify counter.
Healer Shaman is delayed for 1 turn.

ART:
Source
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Icaro can target creatures and players alike.

Icaro: song sung in healing ceremonies
« Last Edit: November 10, 2015, 05:39:10 PM by Treldon »
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Re: Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1211189#msg1211189
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2015, 12:16:00 AM »
So does the unupped read as ":water :water :water: Kill target creature" for most intents and purposes?

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Re: Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1211193#msg1211193
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2015, 12:55:59 AM »
creature dies after attacking, or dies after using ability if it was already on field before slot was flooded. This is rather OP, even though it costs 7 quanta to get out and use once with two different quanta types, since you can flood the first three slots and pretty much lock-down the opponents creature field. The inherent synergy with forest spirit is nice, but while it is a pretty expensive ability, I do feel that it should either be increased to four :water quanta or decrease the flooding to two turns. If this is supposed to be a synergy with flooding, I would take this over flooding any day.
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Re: Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1211242#msg1211242
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2015, 12:40:20 PM »
Decreasing flooding to 2 turns is going to be done for sure. How about the option I put in the notes - Rain dance being usable only on unoccupied slots?
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Re: Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1211244#msg1211244
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2015, 12:45:12 PM »
Regardless of the duration of flooding the unupped is basically instakill on a stick with too few restrictions. I'd rather the unupped just be unoccupied slots instead; while that makes it more situational it's likely less of a hassle to balance as well.

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Re: Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1211246#msg1211246
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2015, 01:01:37 PM »
One idea could be that it floods the corresponding slot on your side of the field too. That way, because shamans are Life and not water, it gives some small restriction.
Still really OP, also reducing to 1 turn might make it just about balanced though.

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Re: Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1211248#msg1211248
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2015, 01:04:03 PM »
Reduced Rain dance to 2 turns and unoccupied slots. And added art.
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Re: Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1212309#msg1212309
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2015, 06:37:29 PM »
Bump. Is unupped still OP?

And what about upped? No responses on that so far
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Re: Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1212407#msg1212407
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2015, 08:19:02 AM »
Upped, er. Well. It's a strange upgrade. I like.

But if we're going to make another poison hoser, let's not make it require the same elements that purify does, please.

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Re: Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1212437#msg1212437
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2015, 04:17:25 PM »
Upped, er. Well. It's a strange upgrade. I like.

But if we're going to make another poison hoser, let's not make it require the same elements that purify does, please.

:light would be a natural choice, but probably boring. How about :air (icaro being music and singing, and sounds are Air's domain, right?)
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Re: Shaman | Healer Shaman http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60145.msg1214348#msg1214348
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2015, 05:39:24 PM »
Icaro now costs  :air :air
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