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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220251#msg1220251
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2016, 11:52:49 PM »
Preferred the weapon freezing mechanic ^_^

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220254#msg1220254
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2016, 01:43:35 AM »
Freezing a random creature each turn and dealing 6 damage?  And you removed the breaking after a few turns?  Seems a bit too strong now.  And less interesting.
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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220255#msg1220255
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2016, 01:45:13 AM »
Oh right. Forgot about the break part ><

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220268#msg1220268
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2016, 08:09:33 AM »
Is the upped version meant to be exactly the same with the unupped version?

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220306#msg1220306
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2016, 07:48:43 PM »
-Is the freeze an activated ability or does it automatically happen each time it attacks?

-If it happens automatically does the freeze still occur if the weapon is blocked?

-Can the random freeze hit immortal or burrowed creatures like ice shield can?

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220453#msg1220453
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2016, 01:27:00 PM »
I liked the ability to let it freeze weapons, that made it unique while being very well element-based. Now it just seems like an Arctic Squid, that doesn't have an upkeep, deals more damage and freezes randomly. The back draw of being a weapon isn't as tough here as you also got rid of the Squid's fragility.

In case you go back to the weapon freezing, I suggest a high freezing chance (like 50%, maybe also depending on quanta amount) and ~5 | ~6 damage at a cost of 3. Immaterial weapons should be immune to freezing.
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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220455#msg1220455
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2016, 01:42:08 PM »
Updated :)
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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220462#msg1220462
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2016, 03:51:35 PM »
You can't just have breaks after 3 turns in the notes and no mention of it in the text...
Also, there is no need for the immaterial clause, it's assumed, even mass field spells that don't target don't affect immaterial creatures
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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220475#msg1220475
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2016, 04:59:31 PM »
That's more like it!! Mucho like-o! (I don't speak Spanish...)

I disagree with RussianSpy about the break text though. I think you should remove the text explaining that immaterial weapons can't be frozen, and add the part that it breaks in 3 turns (that's kind of important).

However, I thought voodoo doll and ice bolt freeze immaterial weapons? I could be mistaken.
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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220479#msg1220479
« Reply #21 on: January 17, 2016, 06:37:42 PM »
You can just have breaks after 3 turns in the notes and no mention of it in the text...
Looks like it's just a remnant of a previous rendition of Icicle.

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220482#msg1220482
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2016, 08:04:38 PM »
I meant "can't"...
I liked the idea of a weapon that breaks eventually.
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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220484#msg1220484
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2016, 08:16:45 PM »
-snip-
add the part that it breaks in 3 turns (that's kind of important).
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