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Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220148#msg1220148
« on: January 13, 2016, 11:42:24 PM »
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon:  Deal 6 damage.
50% chance to freeze an enemy weapon.
Breaks after 3 turns.
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
2 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon:  Deal 6 damage.
50% chance to freeze an enemy weapon.
Breaks after 3 turns.

ART:
Google
IDEA:
Discord
NOTES:
Immaterial weapons are unaffected.
SERIES:


Spoiler for Hidden:
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage.
50% chance to freeze an enemy weapon.
Breaks after 3 turns.
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage.
50% chance to freeze an enemy weapon.
Breaks after 3 turns.

ART:
Google
IDEA:
Discord
NOTES:
Immaterial weapons are unaffected.
SERIES:


Spoiler for Hidden:
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage.
50% chance to freeze an enemy weapon. Breaks after 3 turns.
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage.
50% chance to freeze an enemy weapon. Breaks after 3 turns.

ART:

IDEA:
Discord
NOTES:
Immaterial weapons are unaffected.
SERIES:


Spoiler for Old:
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage.
50% to freeze enemy weapon.
If enemy weapon is immaterial, will not work.
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage.
50% to freeze enemy weapon.
If enemy weapon is immaterial, will not work.

ART:

IDEA:
Discord
NOTES:
Breaks after 3 turns
SERIES:


Spoiler for Older:
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage.
Freeze a random enemy creature on the opponent's side.
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon: Deal 6 damage.
Freeze a random enemy creature on the opponent's side.

ART:

IDEA:
Discord
NOTES:
Breaks after 3 turns
SERIES:


Spoiler for Oldest:
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon: deal 3 damage.
Chance to freeze enemy weapon. Breaks after 5 turns.
NAME:
Icicle
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Weapon: deal 3 damage.
Chance to freeze enemy weapon. Breaks after 5 turns.

ART:

IDEA:
Discord
NOTES:

SERIES:

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220149#msg1220149
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2016, 11:45:04 PM »
This is pretty similar to one of ZephyrPhantom 's cards, IIRC. Still a fun concept

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220187#msg1220187
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2016, 07:30:42 AM »
Link Meow? Even if they are similar all that can really do is further balance the concept to allow it to grow.


I feel like it is very weak this point though. The upgrade should at least include a damage increase, as is it's a very minor upgrade, almost not even worth it

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220190#msg1220190
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2016, 08:50:54 AM »
Care to explain how does the chance to freeze enemy weapon work (say, a flat chance, modified by :water quanta (at attack or at casting?), or something else)?

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220202#msg1220202
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 01:11:04 PM »
I really like the idea if a "temporary weapon" however, as zombies said I think the current incarnation is pretty weak--too little damage and too high cost.

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220216#msg1220216
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 06:31:00 PM »
Depending on the chance to freeze this is either too weak or too strong.  I would recommend bumping the damage by 1 and keeping a relatively low chance of freezing.  Also, what do you think about freezing (disabling) enemy shield if they have one instead of the weapon?  Makes thematic sense, but is a bit weird mechanically.
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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220218#msg1220218
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016, 06:37:34 PM »
Link Meow? Even if they are similar all that can really do is further balance the concept to allow it to grow.


I feel like it is very weak this point though. The upgrade should at least include a damage increase, as is it's a very minor upgrade, almost not even worth it

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/level-2-forge/frostbite-frostbite-60127/

A bit more different than I thought, but my statement stands.

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220238#msg1220238
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016, 09:09:52 PM »
Found badass art. :o

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220239#msg1220239
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2016, 09:10:33 PM »
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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220241#msg1220241
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2016, 09:15:32 PM »
But seriously now...

I love the idea of a weapon that freezes the enemy weapon, and it's certainly a good alternative to Trident for those not running :earth.

I agree that it's UP though. Given that some opponents won't even have a weapon, its effect is a little niche. Since the chance to freeze isn't certain, nor even unique to Water (icebolt), it doesn't add a huge deal to Water's PC arsenal. That's supposed to be constructive criticism :P Since it's going to break, I think it should be doing at least as much damage as Longsword (-1 for unupped), and probably cost less too. Pretty sure you know how awesome Discord can be for a 3 :rainbow weapon, but that does 6 damage :)

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220243#msg1220243
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 09:23:49 PM »
Updated.

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Re: Icicle | Icicle http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=60952.msg1220250#msg1220250
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2016, 11:42:13 PM »
Preferred the weapon freezing mechanic ^_^

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