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Re: Divine Gift | Divine Gift http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59720.msg1207603#msg1207603
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2015, 04:18:31 PM »


With this and singu, you can make your opponent spawn more and more and more singus, control and deal with your own...

Not saying it's OP, just... Be careful.
This is the same problem that openEtG had with give.
The workaround was simply to have all side swapping mechanics simply kill the singularity.
(it even says its ill behaved so the exception makes sense)
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Re: Divine Gift | Divine Gift http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59720.msg1207604#msg1207604
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2015, 04:21:49 PM »
Only Give kills the Singu. Beguile can be used in OEtG to give away a Singularity for 1 turn, and it is not OP.
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Re: Divine Gift | Divine Gift http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59720.msg1207610#msg1207610
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2015, 05:02:59 PM »
Only Give kills the Singu. Beguile can be used in OEtG to give away a Singularity for 1 turn, and it is not OP.

Beguile also costs more.

I mean, if that singularity reproduces whilst it's on the opponent's side, then... e.e
All the RNG behind it should stop it from being too competitive, though.

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Re: Divine Gift | Divine Gift http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59720.msg1207631#msg1207631
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2015, 06:20:53 PM »
Only Give kills the Singu. Beguile can be used in OEtG to give away a Singularity for 1 turn, and it is not OP.

Beguile also costs more.

I mean, if that singularity reproduces whilst it's on the opponent's side, then... e.e
All the RNG behind it should stop it from being too competitive, though.
Does it help if we give the opponent and adrenalined Singu or does the Singu come back to the original field after the first (or first 2) attack(s)?
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Re: Divine Gift | Divine Gift http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59720.msg1207713#msg1207713
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2015, 07:30:48 AM »
Singu only goes to opponent's side for 2 turns as a -2/15, which does minimal damage. If it copies itself with Infest, it copies the passive/condition of side switching, so in the end it just hurts the user much more. Kinda like how Silence isn't an OP card despite a strong denial effect.
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Re: Divine Gift | Divine Gift http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59720.msg1207745#msg1207745
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2015, 02:39:50 PM »
Singu only goes to opponent's side for 2 turns as a -2/15, which does minimal damage. If it copies itself with Infest, it copies the passive/condition of side switching, so in the end it just hurts the user much more. Kinda like how Silence isn't an OP card despite a strong denial effect.
I thought infest created a brand new singularity 'a-la' mitosis. This is how it works for malignant cells at least. If you give a malignant cell blessing, you don't get new 4|4 copies from it, you get the base 1|1 copies from it.

Of course, I haven't played with singu enough to know for sure if infest is the only way it reproduces or if it uses a self PU instead.

I do know that under openEtG coding 'infest' is actually defined as 'selfautomitosis' which again is just automatically using mitosis every round. E.g. there would be no copying of any status effects.

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Re: Divine Gift | Divine Gift http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=59720.msg1208692#msg1208692
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2015, 09:10:24 AM »
Singu only goes to opponent's side for 2 turns as a -2/15, which does minimal damage. If it copies itself with Infest, it copies the passive/condition of side switching, so in the end it just hurts the user much more. Kinda like how Silence isn't an OP card despite a strong denial effect.
I thought infest created a brand new singularity 'a-la' mitosis. This is how it works for malignant cells at least. If you give a malignant cell blessing, you don't get new 4|4 copies from it, you get the base 1|1 copies from it.

Of course, I haven't played with singu enough to know for sure if infest is the only way it reproduces or if it uses a self PU instead.

I do know that under openEtG coding 'infest' is actually defined as 'selfautomitosis' which again is just automatically using mitosis every round. E.g. there would be no copying of any status effects.



Singularity's skill is listed as infest, but it does copy its own inflicted effects and buffs given by the player in EtG. With that in mind, I think this card is ready for the crucible! Submitting.
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