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Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1039979#msg1039979
« on: February 08, 2013, 04:46:51 am »
NAME:
Orrery
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Generates :gravity for every element represented on the field.
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Planetarium
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Generates :gravity for every element represented on the field.

ART:
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IDEA:
KrackoCloud
NOTES:
A represented element is any element that has a card or mark of its type in play.
If two mono-Gravs go against each other, this will generate 1 :gravity per turn. So usually, it generates 2 quanta.
Goes great with or against any multi-element deck.
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NAME:
Orrery
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:gravity : Revolution
Generate 1 quanta of every non-Gravity element represented on the field.
NAME:
Planetarium
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
3 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:gravity : Revolution
Generate 1 quanta of every non-Gravity element represented on the field.

ART:
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IDEA:
KrackoCloud
NOTES:
Earlier idea gave your pillars and pendulums x% chance to generate an extra quanta.

This revision is still very duo+ oriented, but much more reliable in terms of quanta generation.
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« Last Edit: March 03, 2013, 08:52:46 pm by krackocloud »

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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1040014#msg1040014
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2013, 10:44:24 am »
I basically like it, but in general, a random % chance isn't what most people wish for. Wouldn't it be possible to somehow have this card with a non-random effect?

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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1040039#msg1040039
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2013, 01:52:07 pm »
Make them alternatively generate quanta of their opposite element, that's a good idea for making Trios.
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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1040073#msg1040073
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2013, 03:56:49 pm »
Make them alternatively generate quanta of their opposite element, that's a good idea for making Trios.
Could you explain that?

Anyway, here's some other ideas:
-":gravity : Generate 1 quanta of every element represented on the field. Does not generate :gravity." This would work but it doesn't generate :gravity! Is that even worth it? Might be good for rainbows though.
-"Each turn, generates 1 quanta for any one element represented on the field." Rainbow again, but more pillar-like, and can actually generate  :gravity. But doesn't feel particularly special.
-"Heal 1HP for every pillar or pendulum you own at the end of your turn." The original idea, but not very... original. It's defensive, which is apt for Gravity, but I'd prefer quanta generation.

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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1040080#msg1040080
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2013, 04:30:03 pm »
Make them alternatively generate quanta of their opposite element, that's a good idea for making Trios.
Could you explain that?

Anyway, here's some other ideas:
-":gravity : Generate 1 quanta of every element represented on the field. Does not generate :gravity." This would work but it doesn't generate :gravity! Is that even worth it? Might be good for rainbows though.
-"Each turn, generates 1 quanta for any one element represented on the field." Rainbow again, but more pillar-like, and can actually generate  :gravity. But doesn't feel particularly special.
-"Heal 1HP for every pillar or pendulum you own at the end of your turn." The original idea, but not very... original. It's defensive, which is apt for Gravity, but I'd prefer quanta generation.
Of those three you just listed, I think the first is the most fitting. As for what Chapuz was referring to - the elemental pairs.
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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1040089#msg1040089
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2013, 05:14:43 pm »
That's what I figured... But the wording is what's confusing me more, that's all.
Make them alternatively generate quanta of their opposite element, that's a good idea for making Trios.
Does "alternatively" mean "here's another idea," or does it mean "turn pillars into pendulums"? Is "them" referring to pillars and pendulums, or Orrery cards?

Working with opposite elements could be pretty cool. Not sure if I'd run with it for this particular card though.
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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1040239#msg1040239
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2013, 01:02:41 am »
Card revised.
I'm considering lowering the initial cost but hiking Revolution's up to 2 :gravity.

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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1042013#msg1042013
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2013, 06:12:14 pm »
Quanta generation for other elements may not be the greatest use, but I want to make an Orrery card! D:

Can anyone actually think of legitimate applications for this card? Otherwise I'll probably completely rework it.
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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1042080#msg1042080
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2013, 10:21:47 pm »
Maybe make it affect the hand too

If the quanta generated match the element of the card this card could have some cool uses like generating fire quanta from a rage pot on the hand to feed a graviton fire eater, earth quanta from a bb, life quanta from adrenaline, then use it all on a oty and make the combo etc etc

It could also be a good counter to ghostmare


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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1047555#msg1047555
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2013, 11:41:00 pm »
New version created. Tell me which one you prefer.

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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1047557#msg1047557
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2013, 11:44:19 pm »
I like this version: gives  :gravity a bit more of a 'anti-rainbow' feel to it, and even without it, it will pay back it's quanta cost in 5 turns.
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Re: Orrery | Planetarium https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=46669.msg1119734#msg1119734
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2014, 08:45:42 am »
I like this card a lot :)

I feel like it's a good card, with a good price for its ability.

I'd use it.

 

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