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Leech | Blood Sipper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532118#msg532118
« on: August 12, 2012, 02:49:00 am »
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
0
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 3
TEXT:
Costs 4 health to play.
:darkness  : Leech gains Vampire till end of turn and -0|-1.
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
0
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
5 | 3
TEXT:
Costs 4 health to play.
:darkness  : Blood Sipper gains Vampire till end of turn and -0|-1.

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Re: Leach | Blood Sucker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532119#msg532119
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2012, 02:52:50 am »
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Bloodsucker is taken by upgraded parasite?

Also, is that a yet-to-be-determined cost? This is the Smithy, ET...
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Re: Leach | Blood Sucker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532120#msg532120
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2012, 02:59:34 am »
Also, is that a yet-to-be-determined cost? This is the Smithy, ET...

So? Ideas are refined in the smithy anyways.
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Re: Leach | Blood Sucker https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532121#msg532121
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2012, 03:06:25 am »
Also, is that a yet-to-be-determined cost? This is the Smithy, ET...

So? Ideas are refined in the smithy anyways.

Yes, refined, not created.
If ideas aren't actual cards by the Smithy, then what's the point of the Pre-Smithy?

Cards are refined for balance before they go live. Has Zanzarino ever presented a card without a determinate initial version?
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Re: Leach | Blood Sipper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532122#msg532122
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2012, 03:09:09 am »
fixed
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Re: Leach | Blood Sipper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532123#msg532123
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2012, 03:19:49 am »
I think the upped would be better suited for 5 attack.
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Re: Leach | Blood Sipper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532225#msg532225
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2012, 11:21:37 am »
I realized after I shut down last night the wording for this is incorrect.
was: Leach gains Vampire and -0|-1.
current: Leach gains Vampire till end of turn and -0|-1.
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Re: Leach | Blood Sipper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532237#msg532237
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2012, 01:17:42 pm »
Should be Leech.
Anyway, the upped version seems powerful with Fractal (total HP net = 1, no quanta aside from :aether is wasted)
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Re: Leach | Blood Sipper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532293#msg532293
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2012, 04:10:59 pm »
oops i forgot the :darkness activation cost.
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Re: Leech | Blood Sipper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532705#msg532705
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2012, 08:32:05 pm »
I think the Element line is filled out wrong. Unless you intend for blood to be an element instead of costing hp, Leech would fall into one of the current 13 categories. (Probably  :darkness)
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Re: Leech | Blood Sipper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532716#msg532716
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2012, 09:01:23 pm »
I think the Element line is filled out wrong. Unless you intend for blood to be an element instead of costing hp, Leech would fall into one of the current 13 categories. (Probably  :darkness)
That would actually be a cool way to introduce a "13th" element without actually creating a new one.
An element where all costs are paid in HP instead of quanta...
Maybe call the element Blood or Sacrifice or something

For Bazar purposes, they could go under "Other"
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Re: Leech | Blood Sipper https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42676.msg532719#msg532719
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I think the Element line is filled out wrong. Unless you intend for blood to be an element instead of costing hp, Leech would fall into one of the current 13 categories. (Probably  :darkness)
That would actually be a cool way to introduce a "13th" element without actually creating a new one.
An element where all costs are paid in HP instead of quanta...
Maybe call the element Blood or Sacrifice or something

For Bazar purposes, they could go under "Other"
Elements are defined by quanta. Quanta is defined by a quanta pool.
Alternate cost mechanics, Pseudoquanta and Pseudoelements are great ways to add new themes without adding new elements.

If Blood is not an element then it should not be called an element. Rather the cards would be put in one of the 13 existing categories (I think Darkness for Leech. Other cards might be in other elements or join SoSac in other.)

PS: Most "13th element" ideas are only called such due to misunderstanding the scope of what an element is. Usually the themes are not elemental themes but rather composite or subset themes. Hence why most work better as composite sets or subsets.
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