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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg438428#msg438428
« Reply #84 on: December 14, 2011, 12:53:59 am »
I've been trying to design 500hp EM decks that work for FGs when possible, and I just beat Jezebel easily with this one:

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Play tips:
-PA jezebel's quantum towers ASAP
-do not PA anything else; you have 6 just to make sure you draw one early.  Let her use her steals and tears so her hand doesn't clog up

Gemfinders were there just as siphon bait.  One unanticipated thing that happened in my favour was that jezebel stole and then turned my pillars unto auburn nymphs, and then kept delaying my gemfinders, so that they were able to absorb multiple siphon lifes each, not just one.  With all the healing, you can just ignore the dagger and water nymphs.  If jezebel steals your sancs, it doesn't matter; they're just there as steal bait and to keep you alive against an early dagger, and in case she manages a gravity nymph.  You could probably trim the deck a little, but don't do it too much; you win by deckout, and near the end of the game, jezebel's hand will still clog up with extra shields, daggers, etc.  I had 13 cards left when I won on my first attempt.

The auburn nymph thing made me think of an extremely funny counterdeck I might try next time.  The idea is to play an earth/gravity duo.  Use the PAs to block her own QTs, then play trebuchets and PA those.  Put out whatever n00b creature suits your fancy, let jezebel steal your towers and make them into auburn nymphs, which will then BB your creatures.  This will turn them into uber1337 trebuchet fodder.  It's completely ridiculous, but it would be incredibly funny.

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg443981#msg443981
« Reply #85 on: December 31, 2011, 06:41:55 pm »
I've been trying to design 500hp EM decks that work for FGs when possible, ...
I like to do the same thing; 320 gold is nice.  I modified a deckout deck I use against Lionheart, and it worked perfectly first time out, and I see no reason not to expect it to give a 500hp EM almost every time.

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I still have to see what happens if she gets some creatures before you can PA her Quantum Towers.  And I don't know how well the deck would work without the ability to play a PA first turn, if your Stone Towers were unupped. I don't think the rest of the upped cards are crucial, but the shields and the PAs would be next.

First PA is for her Quantum Towers.  Second is for your shards.  Third is for your Time Factory.  Don't play a Time Factory without one, and make sure all three Time Factories are either upped or unupped. Fourth is for Eternity.  Then you can PA your Stone Towers.  Don't worry about those, you can get by if she steals them. I didn't get a PA for those for a long time, she stole 8 of them, and it was no problem getting to 500 life even though I drew 4 Stone Skins early and had to play the first two with only 60 or so mana.  The last heal is for your EM, so pay attention to her card count--if she has fewer than seven cards in hand she could deck out when she has one left.

With the Life mark if things go pear shaped and she gets some nymphs, you might still be okay healing 30 a turn by the end, and she can't hit you with the Siphon LIfe thanks to your shield.  Other cards I considered and might add if it looks necessary are more Heals, Nova (unupped) and Lightning Storm (upped, cancels Cloak), but if she doesn't get a first turn cloak, you want to maximize your chance at drawing a PA in your opening hand, which makes the game a cakewalk, so keepind the deck small was a priority.




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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg445619#msg445619
« Reply #86 on: January 05, 2012, 07:28:38 am »
I just beat Jezebel with this.

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Virtually immune to her CC, this deck fills her board with useless 1-attack Gravity Nymphs, while rushing her quickly. Let her steal an excess Titan if she has a dagger out. An Earth Nymph can be problematic, but it may be more reliable than Shak'ars.

Towers can be used instead, but pendulums don't give her as much :gravity quanta to power Gravity Nymphs.
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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg446204#msg446204
« Reply #87 on: January 06, 2012, 10:50:58 am »
Easy 500 HP EM deck:

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Gemfinders are to draw away Siphon Lifes. She'll use Basilisk Blood on them, allowing them to take quite a lot of Siphon Lifes. Protecting her Quantum Tower stack should be the first thing you do, followed by protecting a Diamond Shield. Get a protected Pulverizer out to smash Cloaks, Permafrost Shields and Vampire Dagger (this helps clear her hand as well). Whatever you do, DO NOT PROTECT YOUR TOWERS. You need her to Steal them to free up her hand. Black Hole is for final healing to get the EM.
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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg449884#msg449884
« Reply #88 on: January 17, 2012, 03:01:43 pm »
Easy 500 HP EM deck:
Nice work, Xeno.  First game I finished with 480hp because I didn't find my BH; second game I finished with 500hp.  +rep

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg449902#msg449902
« Reply #89 on: January 17, 2012, 04:13:24 pm »
Easy 500 HP EM deck:
Agreed, I used it mostly unupped and lost due to because of incorrect judging of her damage, but I could see it would have been an easy victory had I been better at adding damage through her Cloak. Possible good enough to be added to the OP.

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg450157#msg450157
« Reply #90 on: January 18, 2012, 11:31:04 am »
Easy 500 HP EM deck:

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Woo 500 HP EM win by deckout! Worked like a charm for me today. Can't say Jezebel used her Siphon Lives on my Gemfinders (instead she kept on petrifying them and saving the Siphons for my HP bar), but didn't matter. Shouldn't really be an issue as long as you use Granite/Stone Skin at appropriate times (i.e., whenever you have 75 earth quanta/whenever you feel in danger of getting Siphoned to death). Fortunately she only has 6 Siphons.

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg452019#msg452019
« Reply #91 on: January 23, 2012, 09:34:02 pm »
Just decked-out and EM'd Jezebel with this:

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg453534#msg453534
« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2012, 07:20:53 pm »
The unupped counter in the OP seems to be highly draw dependant.  :'(

I did not test it, but i think if you have the cards/electrum to upgrade at least supernova+entropy pends it will be much more stable.

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg458589#msg458589
« Reply #93 on: February 10, 2012, 05:35:15 pm »
I've been playing the game around a week or two and just beat jezebel with an absolutely horrendous deck

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I do not suggest using this deck as is, (a big reason I won was because oracle gave me an azure dragon as pet), but the general strategy of protecting your opponents QT, then your own was VERY effective, as she only had 2 air nymphs out for the entire game, and got her vamp dagger late and permafrost REALLY late.  I'd say making a deck to protect her QT and then make sure she can't steal anything by protecting your towers and then not playing anything that can be stolen is quite effective.  The parallel universes were basically useless, as the only reason I brought that was in case he got out an aether nymph on me via steal, but looking back on it I would've died anyways if he did, and copying it wouldn't have made a difference.   Those slots easily could've been used better, (heck, more phase dragons, even changing them to aether or earth pillars would've been better). 

I guess the main point of this post is that if you have an unupgraded deck and only 1 rare, jezebel is still beatable if you can shut down the nymphs early and catch some breaks, she cloaked the turn after I got the QT protected for instance , but water nymphs just aren't threatening at all and I was fine with that to a degree. 

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg459059#msg459059
« Reply #94 on: February 11, 2012, 09:22:16 pm »
With instosis, once Jezebel gets out a gravy nymph, it's basically game over for you.

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg460113#msg460113
« Reply #95 on: February 14, 2012, 04:56:33 am »
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OK, not my deck! I just upped the rest from an earlier post. This deck has worked for me every time with an EM. I feel that Intosis is too risky for a certain win. This deck has the right balance for getting a great start and can even win with a poor start. I think this could be the top deck for Jezebel and the only thing I might add into it is a rewind to avoid deck on a last card Eternity draw.

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