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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg408354#msg408354
« Reply #72 on: October 12, 2011, 02:05:12 am »
Original unupped counter is a guaranteed loss in 1.29 due to quanta cap. I tossed this together and it seems win about half the time in trainer.
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The biggest risk is if she steals your tower and gets an auburn nymph (in which case she'll BB your dragons and you'll never get any damage in.) Win rate would improve substantially if you could get good CC in there to take out any early dangerous nymphs but I couldn't see a way to make that happen. I tried death mark and plague but it doesn't work; you lose if she get's a shield or dagger (which seems to be more common than a fast setup.) EDIT: I tossed in 3 rage potions and it seems to work. It makes the games cut awfully close, but games that would have been impossible are now potentially winable.

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg413078#msg413078
« Reply #73 on: October 20, 2011, 12:10:22 pm »
I have terrible luck with Shaka'ars revenge.

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My version of Bugslayer's unupgraded deck. (Replace any upgraded cards you have, except for Phoenixes)
Enchant Artifact prioritized on Quantum Towers, then Burning Pillars, then Water Towers. Deflagrate a Cloak if you need to enchant the QTs!
Phoenixes can survive multiple Siphons. (It also keeps her from targeting YOU with Siphons!)
Deflagrations are prioritized for Vampire Daggers. Use one on her shield if you think you can spare one.
Rage Potion on any surviving Nymphs.

If you're looking for EMs, you can pop in a couple of SoGs, but make sure you Enchant them or they'll be stolen and it may cause you to deck out!

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg415126#msg415126
« Reply #74 on: October 24, 2011, 09:54:28 am »
use EA on her towers, and she is done for... (save one for your shield)
   This, along with other people's suggestions, gave me the inspiration for this deck (the blank cards are Sanctuaries):

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   The idea is to EA Jezebel's QTs, then your own pillars. The Deflags are for Cloaks and Vampire Daggers, and Reflective Shield blocks Siphon Life. Sanctuary buys you enough time to deck her out. I tried it in the trainer, and went 8-2. Thoughts?
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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg415571#msg415571
« Reply #75 on: October 25, 2011, 02:09:56 pm »
With my bad results with Sharkarse, I decided to go the rush route because I didn't have the patience to stall. Now, Cremation rushes may be fast, but I'm not a fan of having my main offence being vulnerable. Even if you get to bait Siphons with Phoenixes, you have to wait with unleashing your offence, and even then your Destroyers often go down before later Siphons or Nymphs with CC skills.

So, I go with a speedbow for durable offence. While it worked this time, I think I'll get some mass-CC next time to actually make it more of a counter than just a rush. Two upped Pandemoniums and a Plague or two should do it.

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg415589#msg415589
« Reply #76 on: October 25, 2011, 03:00:22 pm »
100% against Jezebel with Neurotoxin-SoSa deck. I think you can lose only if your deck is poorly shuffled.

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg416044#msg416044
« Reply #77 on: October 26, 2011, 03:57:05 pm »
I have terrible luck with Shaka'ars revenge.

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My version of Bugslayer's unupgraded deck. (Replace any upgraded cards you have, except for Phoenixes)
Enchant Artifact prioritized on Quantum Towers, then Burning Pillars, then Water Towers. Deflagrate a Cloak if you need to enchant the QTs!
Phoenixes can survive multiple Siphons. (It also keeps her from targeting YOU with Siphons!)
Deflagrations are prioritized for Vampire Daggers. Use one on her shield if you think you can spare one.
Rage Potion on any surviving Nymphs.

If you're looking for EMs, you can pop in a couple of SoGs, but make sure you Enchant them or they'll be stolen and it may cause you to deck out!
That did work for me
Although I almost decked out
Maybe some extra pillars?

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg419121#msg419121
« Reply #78 on: November 01, 2011, 09:35:02 pm »
Used a mod of the deck above, with potions swapped for Rains and more cards added. Crushed her handily, and won two cards with it :)

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg419409#msg419409
« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2011, 01:57:38 pm »
i recommend this deck, it works like a charm

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg419633#msg419633
« Reply #80 on: November 02, 2011, 11:36:02 pm »
The decks posted in the OP desperately need some brief explanation of what strategy is supposed to be used.  At a bare minimum, at what health should the dolls be PU'd?  It's definitely an interesting and unique strategy, that's for sure.

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg425493#msg425493
« Reply #81 on: November 14, 2011, 11:20:31 pm »
Crushed her handily, and won two cards with it :)
Same PA/Phoenix deck I used last time.
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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg425604#msg425604
« Reply #82 on: November 15, 2011, 03:59:40 am »
The decks posted in the OP desperately need some brief explanation of what strategy is supposed to be used.  At a bare minimum, at what health should the dolls be PU'd?  It's definitely an interesting and unique strategy, that's for sure.
When you're sure the dolls won't be killed the next turn. It is very frustrating to calculate carefully that your doll will survive and then suddenly nymphs tears pops out some Turquoise nymphs. So maybe one or two turns before it dies.

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Re: Oracle : Jezebel https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=21952.msg426130#msg426130
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2011, 09:01:47 am »
Gravity Nymph was the bane of the counter deck...not enough for PUs = slow and tortured death.

 

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