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Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg524673#msg524673
« on: July 23, 2012, 08:02:59 pm »
NAME:
Cymothoa
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|4
TEXT:
Goes to opponent's side of the field when played.
Parasite: Owner takes 3 damage for each card played.
NAME:
Cymothoa
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0|4
TEXT:
Goes to opponent's side of the field when played.
Parasite: Owner takes 5 damage for each card played.

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This is what happens when I am too lazy to ask Zblader to photoshop devourer for me.
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Cymothoa is basically a parasite that eats the tongue of a fish and sits in the fish's mouth.

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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg524741#msg524741
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 10:32:20 pm »
This is what happens when I am too lazy to ask Zblader to photoshop devourer for me.

Which Devourer?  The old one or vrt's new one?

And I really like all of these card ideas that go to your opponent's side.  I don't know why.  I just seems different enough for me.

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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg524841#msg524841
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2012, 03:50:57 am »
mmm, I think the effect damage needs to be lowered and the card itself given at least a small amount of attack.
As it is
- Negative effect to opponent via card played.
- Clogs opponent's field with a useless-in fact self harming creature
- has a fair sum of CC resistance (single count bolt, mass cc)
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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg524845#msg524845
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2012, 04:00:48 am »
If this stacks, it's really overpowered.  Play two or three of those all at once, and even getting rid of them with stuff like thunderbolt, etc, results in taking a whackload of damage.  Even if it doesn't stack, it's pretty darned good.  It's a great idea, though, just tone down the OPness a bit :)

Also, what happens if you rewind this?  Which deck will it go to?

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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg524849#msg524849
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 04:07:32 am »
Also, what happens if you rewind this?  Which deck will it go to?

Since ownership changes, I guess it'd go to whoever's side it is on.

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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg524856#msg524856
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 04:13:32 am »
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I tried balancing it around dune scorp, but I personally feel Cymothoa is actually a bit UP. Besides the first (and second) turn, it is very rare for a player to play more than 1-2 cards. The chances of getting out Cymothoa in the first two turns is small (Even with towers). Because of this cost, Cymothoa would most likely enter the game at around turn 2-3. If we assume the opponent plays an average of 1.5 (is probably less unless hourglasses, dexterity, fractal, etc) cards per turn, Cymothoa does around 4.5|7.5 damage per turn.
Let us compare to blue crawler and toadfish
Blue crawler 3 :water 3|3
Cymothoa 4 :water 4.5|4
Toadfish 5 :water 6|4

Abyss crawler 4 :water 6|6
Cymothoa 4 :water 7.5|4
Toadfish 5 :water 3(+1 each turn)|5

In this way, isn't it balanced? (Going onto the opponent's side of the field would probably count as less than .25 :rainbow in cost imo)
Not really sure about the RT question, but Drake's answer is probably most likely. Ownership changed so it goes to the other person's deck.

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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg524860#msg524860
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 04:18:11 am »
this card looks quite interesting but a bit op if you have fractal with it

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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg524869#msg524869
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 04:30:48 am »
this card looks quite interesting but a bit op if you have fractal with it
Did anyone read my analysis above? If you were to make a fractal Cymothoa deck, it'd have to focus on that. All the opponent would have to do is literally nothing, and then you have no offense whatsoever. Even if they do things, like play 1 card a turn, that's worse than you fractaling Abyss Crawlers.

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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg524877#msg524877
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 05:11:00 am »
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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg525135#msg525135
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 10:07:39 pm »
Testing to see how much cards opponent plays in the first 7 turns. (blanks are because I got lazy or forgot)

1: 3   3   4   4   4   2   1
2: 0   1   1   2   1   1   2
3: 2   1   1   1   2   1   1
4: 1   2   1   2   1   1   1
5: 2   2   1   1   1   1   1
6: 1   1   1   0   2   1   1
7: 1   0      1   2      0

Averages are 1.43, 1.43, 1.5, 1.57, 1, and 1. So the total average is 1.32. So averagely a cymothoa is a 3.96, roughly 4 momentum'd attacker.

BUT

It is absolutely impossible to get out cymothoa in the first turn unupped. It's possible to get it out second turn, but impossible to get it out first turn (unless you get 2 novas, 2 photons, 2 immolations, and a cymothoa), so the first turn should be discarded.

New averages are 1.17, 1.17, 1, 1, 1.5, 1, and 1. New total average is 1.12. Averagely, a cymothoa does 3.36 momentum'd damage in the first 7 turns of the game, making it slightly better than blue crawler, but not as good as toadfish.


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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg527152#msg527152
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There's a bit more I'd like to do with it, but for now this should be good :)
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Re: Cymothoa | Cymothoa https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=42197.msg527275#msg527275
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