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Hydration | Over Hydration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9513.msg112515#msg112515
« on: July 12, 2010, 12:05:24 am »
NAME:
Hydration
ELEMENT:
:water Water :water
COST:
12 :water
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
N/A
ABILITY:
All water-proof creatures' base attacks are tripled. Creatures die next turn. Absorbs all remaining water quanta.
NAME:
Over Hydration
ELEMENT:
:water Water :water
COST:
10 :water
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
N/A
ABILITY:
All water-proof creatures' base attacks are tripled. Creatures die next turn. Absorbs all remaining water quanta.
ART:
Zac333
IDEA:
Zac333
NOTES:
This card is balanced because at the sacrafice of all your water quanta, your water-proof creatures (Water-proof creatures are non-nuetral/water creatures) die next turn but triple there damage this turn.
I.E. - Upgraded Ice Dragons are 13 damage, so say you have 50 :water, you will sacrafice all that to boost (Lets say 2) Ice dragons, but they will do 39 damage a piece, then just die. They dont get to do there 13 attack next turn when they die, they just die instead of damaging. Its like someone running to home-base after stealing 2nd and 3rd but then getting hit with an RPG missile :)...
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Re: Hydration | Over Hydration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9513.msg112679#msg112679
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2010, 05:43:49 am »
I personnaly think it's OP 6 Crawlers+This=OTK
And for only 34 quanta and in one of the more stalling elements.

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Re: Hydration | Over Hydration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9513.msg112684#msg112684
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2010, 05:59:47 am »
I'm not quite understand. That mean a spell that kill all creatures in the coming turn?

and, is it belongs to the advanced spell series?

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Re: Hydration | Over Hydration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9513.msg112695#msg112695
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2010, 06:29:53 am »
I'm not quite understand. That mean a spell that kill all creatures in the coming turn?

and, is it belongs to the advanced spell series?
No, its not part of a series. It triples all water and nuetral creature's attacks. These creatures are 'water proof' as they wouldnt die in flooding/induation.

I personnaly think it's OP 6 Crawlers+This=OTK
And for only 34 quanta and in one of the more stalling elements.
When People say its OP and give a situation, that means its OP situationally. Just like Fractals/RoL and Hope can be OP situationally, too! This card is bulky in cost and uses all remaining :water, so its not too overpowered. Now, in the situation that say I have Ice Dragons and Abyss Crawlers and play this, yes. Its a bit OP. But, on the other hand, it kills them next turn. Also, it works for both fields. So if your enemy doesnt die, you might. Easily haulted by Bonewall, or a well-sized hope. And if you dont get the damage out, you will lose your creatures :).

Also, mostly only useable with a mono/duo :water deck.

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Re: Hydration | Over Hydration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9513.msg112700#msg112700
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2010, 06:38:26 am »
and, is it belongs to the advanced spell series?
No. The Advanced Spells series belongs to me, and only I can add new cards to it. Other people can make spells that consume all quanta of an element, but that doesn't make them a part of the series.

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When People say its OP and give a situation, that means its OP situationally. Just like Fractals/RoL and Hope can be OP situationally, too! This card is bulky in cost and uses all remaining :water, so its not too overpowered. Now, in the situation that say I have Ice Dragons and Abyss Crawlers and play this, yes. Its a bit OP. But, on the other hand, it kills them next turn. Also, it works for both fields. So if your enemy doesnt die, you might. Easily haulted by Bonewall, or a well-sized hope. And if you dont get the damage out, you will lose your creatures :).
If I make a mass buff spell, it's OP because of Fractal Sparks. Even if it's situationally OP, it's still OP. As $$$man said, if you have 6 Abyss Crawlers in your hand, and this, it's an OTK, and it's very hard to stop or counter.
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

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Re: Hydration | Over Hydration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9513.msg112708#msg112708
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2010, 06:55:03 am »
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When People say its OP and give a situation, that means its OP situationally. Just like Fractals/RoL and Hope can be OP situationally, too! This card is bulky in cost and uses all remaining :water, so its not too overpowered. Now, in the situation that say I have Ice Dragons and Abyss Crawlers and play this, yes. Its a bit OP. But, on the other hand, it kills them next turn. Also, it works for both fields. So if your enemy doesnt die, you might. Easily haulted by Bonewall, or a well-sized hope. And if you dont get the damage out, you will lose your creatures :).
If I make a mass buff spell, it's OP because of Fractal Sparks. Even if it's situationally OP, it's still OP. As $$$man said, if you have 6 Abyss Crawlers in your hand, and this, it's an OTK, and it's very hard to stop or counter.
Very hard to counter me bum!

Okay, lets work this mathmatically.

6*3=18.

18x6=108

Now, lets say we have a -12 hope.

6*3=18

18-12=6

6*6 = 36.

Thats a major cushion, and they will be dead next turn.

Now, with 1 bonewall the damage would = 0. + Would gain 6*2 = 12 more bonewalls.

What else? Well, 1 SoD and a few SoGs can recover in a few turns.
If you have 12 or more :earth and play stone skin this is blocked.

If you can predict this with Precognition, you can prepare for this easily.

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Re: Hydration | Over Hydration https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9513.msg113496#msg113496
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2010, 02:54:37 pm »
Yes, if your opponent has a -12 damage shield they can survive the hit from this and six medium sized creatures. Assuming they weren't hurt badly beforehand.

If they have any shield that does -2 or less then they're dead in one shot. You'd only need 3 dragons to do it and if you had 4 then even a -12 damage hope shield wouldn't stop the one turn knockout. Six dragons is a OTK versus a false god.

Sacrificing creatures and all your quanta isn't balancing if it instantly kills your opponent. Who cares what your field looks like the turn after you've won?

 

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