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Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg59204#msg59204
« on: April 25, 2010, 09:52:03 pm »
NAME:
Raging Ant
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
:fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATT/HP:
10/1
ABILITY:
Absorb  :fire :fire :fire per turn.
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NOTES:
Fits into ablaze-concept of fire, just vice versa, inspired by Flood-Card.
ART BY:
Antagon
IDEA BY:
Antagon
NAME:
Raging Fire Ant
ELEMENT:
Fire
COST:
:fire
TYPE:
Creature
ATT/HP:
10/1
ABILITY:
Absorb  :fire :fire per turn.
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NOTES:
Fits into ablaze-concept of fire, just vice versa, inspired by Flood-Card.
ART BY:
Antagon
IDEA BY:
Antagon

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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg59205#msg59205
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2010, 09:54:00 pm »
So... What happens if there isn't enough :fire to absorb?

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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg59207#msg59207
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2010, 09:55:10 pm »
same with flood - ant dies.

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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg59209#msg59209
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2010, 10:04:40 pm »
perfect target for antimatter

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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg59219#msg59219
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 10:12:34 pm »
like every dragon, but way faster to get on the board

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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg59227#msg59227
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2010, 10:33:45 pm »
Way overpowered.

In the sense that it's an ant.

I mean, frogs are already stronger than vampires, but I am not getting upstaged by an ant.  Make it a balrog or something.

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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg59243#msg59243
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2010, 11:12:24 pm »
What's the funny about having some gigantic beast with fire that's strong?
The funny is to have an strong fire-eating ant. This is great xD
And I'm not sure if the creator would like the new name, I mean, Balrog isn't a part of Antagon.

And, I liked the card. Just think that with only 1 HP it could have some more attack, or cost less.
In three turn this will cost almost the same as a Dragon and will have less attack and a pretty damn low HP.

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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg59246#msg59246
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2010, 11:16:21 pm »
i have no problems bout changing name, ANT-agon is nice, yes, but i also think "Ant" is perfect, it hurts when attacking but simple to kill ;)

and not sure bout strenght, one posting here says way overpowered, other too weak, so i think a discussion is fine about it.

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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg64373#msg64373
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 03:03:58 pm »
CURATOR COMMENT
- Detail in the card and text that the 3 :fire is an Upkeep to keep the card in play.

- Fix the Card Image and add the Fire Icon to the cost.

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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg103149#msg103149
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2010, 08:58:19 pm »
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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg103157#msg103157
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2010, 09:11:49 pm »
Good god. This ant deals the SAME amount of damage equal to a Dragon?  :o

I'm sorry, but I'm not buying this:

...but i also think "Ant" is perfect, it hurts when attacking but simple to kill ;)
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Ants may sting occasionally, but as an elemental, I could see this ant possibly being the equivalent of an Ash Eater, dealing the same amount of damage and being susceptible to the same amount of creature control available in the game. The concept of it having such an absurdly large amount of attack for such a small creature is silly - even a Parasite can only gain up to +5 attack with Eclipse - and although it fits the theme of 'fire' having superb offensive creatures, I'm going to say that this ant thing is not so good.

What would be cool though, is if you actually based the 'Raging Ant' idea off of real-life Fire Ants or something. What if, say, every time you attack with this ant, you gain a counter. For so many counters, you automatically generate another Raging (Fire) Ant that will also gain counters, and this process can repeat (basically a cheap recyclable form of creature rush for :fire), but they're still easy to kill with creature control/fire-quanta denial.

This way, your Fire Ant army increases (thus dealing more damage over time), giving it a new mechanic, and also allows you to remove the heavy damage component of ONE ant.

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Re: Raging Ant / Raging Fire Ant https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5780.msg103195#msg103195
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 09:55:41 pm »
Good god. This ant deals the SAME amount of damage equal to a Dragon?  :o

What would be cool though, is if you actually based the 'Raging Ant' idea off of real-life Fire Ants or something. What if, say, every time you attack with this ant, you gain a counter. For so many counters, you automatically generate another Raging (Fire) Ant that will also gain counters, and this process can repeat (basically a cheap recyclable form of creature rush for :fire), but they're still easy to kill with creature control/fire-quanta denial.

This way, your Fire Ant army increases (thus dealing more damage over time), giving it a new mechanic, and also allows you to remove the heavy damage component of ONE ant.
Dragons are 12 unupgraded and 15 upgraded, so ant is lower.
AND it is far weaker (killed by pretty everything anti-creature) AND it doesnt work fine with immolations, due the upkeep! that was the main-reason for it, cause every fire-creature is fast with immolation/cremation, ant is not good for this useage (nor for fractaling), not works well with firebolts, but is nice in a pillar-based fire deck, i miss.

 

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