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Water Spirit | Water Demon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58718#msg58718
« on: April 24, 2010, 10:36:05 pm »
Edit: Card Updated! Again! And Again!

NAME:
Water Beast
ELEMENT:
:water
COST:
7
TYPE:
Creature
ATT/HP:
2|3
ABILITY:
All creatures(except water and other) in the top and bottom rows take 1 damage per turn. Absorb 3 :water per turn.
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NOTES:
When Water Spirit is destroyed, the flood effect goes away.
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IDEA BY:
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NAME:
Water Demon
ELEMENT:
:water
COST:
9
TYPE:
Creature
ATT/HP:
2|5
ABILITY:
All creatures(except water and other) in the top and bottom rows take 1 damage per turn. Absorb 2 :water per turn.
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NOTES:
When Water Demon is destroyed, the flood effect goes away.
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Kamietsu
IDEA BY:
Kamietsu
Here is the original unscaled down version of the Water Spirit/Demon: http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4349/watergolem.png
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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58737#msg58737
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2010, 11:36:40 pm »
so its flood, but a creature, and is cheaper than flood? Shouldn't it cost more since it also does damage?

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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58738#msg58738
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2010, 11:38:18 pm »
Flood only costs 3 water quanta... so no, it's not cheaper at all.
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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58740#msg58740
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2010, 11:39:52 pm »
Im sorry I should have been clearer, the upkeep is lower.

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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58742#msg58742
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2010, 11:40:08 pm »
Flood actually costs 6 quanta 3 when you play it 3 at end of turn so it just accumulates to this fast.

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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58743#msg58743
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2010, 11:41:37 pm »
The upkeep is lower because it's easier to get rid of. I supposed the upgraded one should cost 2 water quanta per turn since it's defense is higher.
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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58746#msg58746
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2010, 11:43:50 pm »
Id be all for this, but the upkeep would have to be the same as flood or flood would be obsolete

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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58775#msg58775
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2010, 01:23:08 am »
I think this would make Flood nearly useless, because we have Anubis, Turquoise Nymph, and Quintessence handy for creatures.

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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58787#msg58787
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2010, 01:41:04 am »
:water has great synergy with :aether (mind flayers, fractal), so a quinted water demon would not be hard to achieve, especially if you run multiple quints (eg. for mind flayer or squid).
On the other hand :water :earth has little synergy (trident) but I think it would be hard to make a good deck with PA+inundation for a protected flood.

Thus water demon would be like a better flood, dealing damage, easier to protect... yes, I think it would make flood/inundation obsolete. Especially because it gets rid of one of floods weaknesses - uselessness against decks with low amount of creatures - because it at least deals some damage.

On the other hand it would suck to get one out of a fate egg or mutation :P Imagine a mutation deck with a field full of mutants, and then you accidentally mutate something into a water demon and it kills 2/3 of your creatures xD (it's a passive ability, so it would work even though it's a mutant)

I like the art and the name, but I think it's better to leave this ability to the permanent and think of some other ability for this creature.
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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58794#msg58794
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2010, 01:59:56 am »

Artwork is Awesome. Can we see the unframed version?

Don't think much positive about the card tho. It combines the offensive potential of a creature with a directly unstoppable creature killing effect at a cheaper cost.

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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58797#msg58797
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2010, 02:13:40 am »
I think that Flooding is really powerful, almost too much power in one card.
This card is almost de same, but cheaper, do damage and we have more than one way to make it protected.

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Re: Water Spirit | Water Demon (Combination Theme) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=5737.msg58882#msg58882
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2010, 10:12:24 am »
I see. Time to go change some things about it, though the card will still have flood as an effect.
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