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Quicken | Quicken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081383#msg1081383
« on: June 19, 2013, 03:05:05 pm »
NAME:
Quicken
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
0
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Sacrifice target pillar to gain :time and one quanta of target pillar's element.  Draw a card.
NAME:
Quicken
ELEMENT:
Time
COST:
0
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Sacrifice target pillar to gain two :time and one quanta of target pillar's element.  Draw a card.

ART:
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clocks
IDEA:
Brae43
NOTES:
A quick and dirty alternative for draw power and quanta.  Good for rushing if you like time creatures.
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« Last Edit: June 21, 2013, 02:37:39 pm by Brae43 »

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Re: Hasten | Hasten https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081436#msg1081436
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2013, 05:55:34 pm »
This would most likely be used in a deck with just time pillars, aka mono time or similar, in place of precognition.

So it would basically be "draw a card and gain 3|4 :time"

I do think it's balanced though... It seems on par with Immolation.

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Re: Hasten | Hasten https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081462#msg1081462
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2013, 06:36:06 pm »
Primarily, that's how I see it, too.  I was going for a twist on immolation (kill a pillar, not a creature), but blending the concept with precog.  While sacrificing a time tower/factory/pendulum is obviously the most likely circumstance, if you're playing a dual/trio/rainbow deck and get an aggravating quanta draw or just don't have cards that match your pillars, it would be good in a pinch, plus get you drawing new cards.

Also, maybe I should word the text differently.  What I intended was gain 1 :time regardless, but 2 (non-upgraded) or 3 (upgraded) if you're sacrificing a time pillar.  (Not 2-3 additional quanta beyond that first one).
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Re: Hasten | Hasten https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081471#msg1081471
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2013, 06:56:47 pm »
Instead of making special cases for Time Factories, grant one round of the pillar you're sacrificing (as in Hastening an Emerald Pillar would give 1 :life and 1 :time)
This could probably cover your upped case: In upped case, give 2 :time and 1 :rainbow of whichever type of pillar was destroyed

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Re: Hasten | Hasten https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081478#msg1081478
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2013, 07:29:05 pm »
Can this also sacrifice Pendulums and Marks?

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Re: Hasten | Hasten https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081481#msg1081481
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2013, 07:34:35 pm »
Instead of making special cases for Time Factories, grant one round of the pillar you're sacrificing (as in Hastening an Emerald Pillar would give 1 :life and 1 :time)
This could probably cover your upped case: In upped case, give 2 :time and 1 :rainbow of whichever type of pillar was destroyed

As long as people think that's pretty balanced.  Drawing a card for playing a zero-cost card (plus getting quanta for doing so) is already pretty neat.  If getting 1 quantum of your choice (provided you have the right pillar out) instead of making the card time-centered doesn't unbalance anything, I'm all for it.  It makes a lot of conceptual sense that hastening a specific type of pillar would net you that pillar's output.

I don't see why it wouldn't be usable for pendulums or marks, too.  They fall under the broad classification of pillars (you can destroy a pendulum with the same cards that work on a pillar).

Let's see if I can add an image of the proposed modification without messing things up.

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Re: Hasten | Hasten https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081610#msg1081610
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2013, 01:15:30 pm »
How about "gain 2 :time instead" for the unupped, and simply replacing 2 with 3 for the upped? All those symbols next to each other gives me a headache.

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Re: Hasten | Hasten https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081614#msg1081614
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2013, 01:51:23 pm »
How about "gain 2 :time instead" for the unupped, and simply replacing 2 with 3 for the upped? All those symbols next to each other gives me a headache.

It was giving me a headache, too.  I went ahead and cleaned up the text, and also incorporated serprex's suggestion above (1 quanta of the type of pillar sacrificed plus 1 (or 2 if upgraded) :time).

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Re: Hasten | Hasten https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081618#msg1081618
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2013, 02:10:59 pm »
Personally, I prefer using the icons when the value is less than 4 because it saves space. In addition, your wording can be more concise.

"Sacrifice a pillar to gain :time and 1 quanta of its type. Draw 1 card."

However, I strongly encourage utilizing the "target" keyword for card effects that target and the "element" keyword over the "type" keyword when you are referring to card element as opposed to card type.

"Sacrifice target pillar to gain :time and 1 quanta of target's element. Draw 1 card."

Also, the name "hasten" is taken by the abilities of Hourglass and Sundial and denotes the effect "Draw 1 card." While this may be intentional, I would suggest changing the name as to avoid confusion.

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Re: Hasten | Hasten https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081653#msg1081653
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2013, 05:52:17 pm »
Text cleaned up.

I chose the name "hasten" to coincide with the hourglass/sundial ability.  This is kind of like directly casting the spell those permanents let you use by activation.  What's another good, less confusing name?  I can't think of a replacement name I like.

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Re: Hasten | Hasten https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081710#msg1081710
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2013, 01:21:27 am »
Blitz, hypersonic, supersonic, warp, fast forward...

I think Blitz | Hypersonic sounds pretty cool, though the effect is kinda unrelated if you do that :P

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Re: Quicken | Quicken https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49949.msg1081816#msg1081816
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2013, 02:43:12 pm »
Changed the name to "Quicken" to avoid confusion with existing hasten abilities.

So how's the card look?  Was the change to garner one (or 2) :time plus one of the type of pillar you sacrificed a good one?  Is this card totally awesome and ready for the crucible?

 

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