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Brand of Defeat | Brand of Defeat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49808.msg1079534#msg1079534
« on: June 12, 2013, 03:23:44 am »
NAME:
Brand of Defeat
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
3 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creature's skill is now Defeatist: Any reduction in HP brings attack to 0.
NAME:
Brand of Defeat
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
2 :death
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Target creature's skill is now Defeatist: Any reduction in HP brings attack to 0.

ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
Notes:
-Replaces any existing skills, similar to the effect of Mitosis or Liquid Shadow.
-The creature with defeatist will only have its attack reduced only if its own HP is reduced.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: June 14, 2013, 12:28:42 am by Raptor6789 »

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Re: Mark of Defeat | Mark of Defeat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49808.msg1079536#msg1079536
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 03:36:07 am »
Nice mechanic, but it's a bit overpowered with Drain Life and the plethora of poisoning cards that Death has to offer.

Also: Consider renaming it. Mark of [X] is usually reserved for cards that give you an extra mark.
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Re: Mark of Defeat | Mark of Defeat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49808.msg1079627#msg1079627
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 05:06:25 pm »
Note: It is a pseudo insta-kill, like Freeze or Basilisk Blood, because it makes the creature unable to attack or use abilities. It is weaker than Freeze and Basilisk Blood because it requires a two-card combo (Mark + the damaging card) and because it is less effective against Mitosis, Butterfly Effect, etc. It is stronger than Freeze and Basilisk Blood because it lasts indefinitely (as opposed to 3 turns and 6 turns, respectively). Compared to a true insta-kill, like Freeze+Shockwave, Mark is more effective than Freeze because the death triggers for Mark (Fire Shield, Thunderstorm, Plague, etc.) are more numerous, are probably more useful outside of the combo, and are also easier to proc (AoE vs. single-target) than the death trigger for Freeze (Shockwave). It is weaker than Freeze because Mark by itself does not affect the creature.

Conclusion: I would argue that this card is a bit more powerful than it should be, and thus, I would increase the cost to 3/2, or add a duration for the ATK reduction (10 turns would be more than short enough).

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Re: Mark of Defeat | Mark of Defeat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49808.msg1079715#msg1079715
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2013, 09:18:30 pm »
for name, you might call it
Sign of Defeat
Symbol of Defeat
Blaze of Defeat
Trace of Defeat
Stain of Defeat
Point of Defeat
Defeat may be replaced with Surrender as well, if u so choose.

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Re: Mark of Defeat | Mark of Defeat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49808.msg1079771#msg1079771
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2013, 04:03:19 am »
I also recommend changing the name as it currently competes with the naming scheme of mark cards.

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Re: Mark of Defeat | Mark of Defeat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49808.msg1079777#msg1079777
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2013, 04:56:51 am »
chimera has yet another enemy, it's as-if rev time, freeze and blood were not enough D:
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Re: Mark of Defeat | Mark of Defeat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49808.msg1079918#msg1079918
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2013, 07:58:35 pm »
Chimera has this wonderful friend called Quintessence

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Re: Brand of Defeat | Brand of Defeat https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49808.msg1079975#msg1079975
« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2013, 12:29:19 am »
Changed the name and increased the cost to 3 :death | 2 :death.

 

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