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Groteske | Rogue Groteske https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49236.msg1070368#msg1070368
« on: May 15, 2013, 01:13:50 am »
NAME:
Groteske
ELEMENT:
Other(any ideas?)
COST:
3
TYPE:
creature
ATK|HP:
1|1
TEXT:
Mimic :
When opponent's creature gains attack and health, it affects this creature.
NAME:
Rogue Groteske
ELEMENT:
other(any ideas?)
COST:
4
TYPE:
creature
ATK|HP:
3|3
TEXT:
Mimic :
When opponent's creature gains attack and health, it affects this creature.

ART:
shadow303
IDEA:
gamerjl
NOTES:
abilities that are mimic-able:
momentum(does not copy bybass effect only +1|+1)
blessing
growth
petrify/basalisk blood
chaos power
anything ive missed?

swarm(still thinking about it)
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Re: Groteske | Rogue Groteske https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49236.msg1070386#msg1070386
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 01:38:31 am »
So basically a hard counter to growth decks. There's not really very many decks that would use this outside of FG counter decks.

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Re: Groteske | Rogue Groteske https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49236.msg1070387#msg1070387
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 01:39:16 am »
So basically a hard counter to growth decks. There's not really very many decks that would use this outside of FG counter decks.
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Re: Groteske | Rogue Groteske https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49236.msg1070512#msg1070512
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2013, 03:27:20 pm »
You could have it cost quanta of the owner's mark,
I recently made an image for representing generic mark type quanta


 Or it could be fused cost (cast cost must be paid from a single pool)

It would also make a nice :darkness / :entropy ( ) hybrid
Spoiler for Dark/Entropy background from hybrid marks page:

So basically a hard counter to growth decks. There's not really very many decks that would use this outside of FG counter decks.
Not just growth decks...
Also counters a number of buff types:
-momentum
-blessing
-chaos power
-SoW

But most notably: SoPa!

Think of what happens if your opponent has several creatures and puts an SoPa in play...
It also makes a fun soft counter against having your own SoPa Stolen... especially if you have several of these in play.

If it can be powered off of mark or fused cost, then it would make a nice card to slide into a number of decks if you just need a generic extra creature.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2013, 03:32:28 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Groteske | Rogue Groteske https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49236.msg1070595#msg1070595
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 10:07:10 pm »




It would also make a nice :darkness / :entropy ( ) hybrid
Spoiler for Dark/Entropy background from hybrid marks page:

hybrid marks page

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Re: Groteske | Rogue Groteske https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49236.msg1070596#msg1070596
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 10:08:30 pm »
Finally, a use for the old Gift card... *gives opponent SoPa*

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Re: Groteske | Rogue Groteske https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49236.msg1070861#msg1070861
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2013, 08:34:31 pm »
Finally, a use for the old Gift card... *gives opponent SoPa*
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Re: Groteske | Rogue Groteske https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49236.msg1070877#msg1070877
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2013, 09:19:16 pm »
If both players have one out ... infinite loop!
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Re: Groteske | Rogue Groteske https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49236.msg1070886#msg1070886
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2013, 09:49:18 pm »
If both players have one out ... infinite loop!
I would be willing to guess this would be handled in a manner similar to when both players have a mirror shield out and one of them throws a lightning bolt.
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Re: Groteske | Rogue Groteske https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49236.msg1071046#msg1071046
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2013, 05:39:42 am »
(Sorry to digress)
Singularity is a very good card for the Gift card too. :p

(Back on topic)
It looks kinda Gravity to me, not really Other.
My concern is that it has too many chances to overgrow as it is now. Eclipse? It gains +6/+6. SoP? It gains +20/+20. Dive? I won't. Etc... And when it doesn't grow, it's not very good.
It is too much of a win/nothing card.

My suggestion: make have only one buff at a time, replacing the current buff with a new one each time its effect procs. Make it cheaper.

Or, make the buff on it to stay only for one turn.

Also, change the wording for an "or" if you want it to work on Basilic Blood. Right now, the wording says it doesn't, it only works if a creature gains Atk *and* Hp.
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