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Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1057921#msg1057921
« on: April 07, 2013, 01:16:01 pm »
NAME:
Starfish
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
1 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 1
TEXT:
:water : Mitosis
Generate a daughter creature.
NAME:
Elite Starfish
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
0
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 2
TEXT:
Mitosis:
Generate a daughter creature.

ART:
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IDEA:
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NOTES:
New generated starfish also got mitosis.
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« Last Edit: April 07, 2013, 01:35:29 pm by emolbay »

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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1057925#msg1057925
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2013, 01:20:53 pm »
I can see exactly one effective use from this card, and that's with SoP. It's not good to have a card with a forced synergy. If there is any other use to this, please enlighten me.
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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1057929#msg1057929
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2013, 01:35:46 pm »
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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1057935#msg1057935
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 02:03:34 pm »
Well my comment still stands. This card is pretty useless without SoPa.
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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1057971#msg1057971
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2013, 04:17:41 pm »
Well my comment still stands. This card is pretty useless without SoPa.

Infinite Mutation/Immolation fodder; Dessication fodder in order to gain a lot of :water. Space filler for flooding so the rest of your creatures can be flooded. Nightmare AIs so you can flood their field with useless creatures.
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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1058067#msg1058067
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2013, 12:09:08 am »
hmmm... I kinda like this. I'm not sure SoP needs a semi-buff though.

Not sure how to use this card... maybe as immofodder.
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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1058068#msg1058068
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2013, 12:09:58 am »
also could put this in a hope deck with lobo and use it for luci fodder without needing fractal.
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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1058077#msg1058077
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2013, 12:42:16 am »
I would make the unupped one have mitosis costing  :life to make it less straight forward to specific decks.
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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1058084#msg1058084
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2013, 01:46:03 am »
i agree with chap but for a different reason, mitosis is a life card, to utilize it without including life is essentially elemental theft.  as such, i would further recommend adding the cost into the upped and decide a way to compensate for that alteration.
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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1058466#msg1058466
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 05:23:33 pm »
i agree with chap but for a different reason, mitosis is a life card, to utilize it without including life is essentially elemental theft.  as such, i would further recommend adding the cost into the upped and decide a way to compensate for that alteration.
Maybe make the unupped skill cost 2 :life and the upped skill cost 1 :life

Thematic issues aside, this card would make a truly excellent addition to :water as it would allow decks to make good use of the flooding - SoPa synnergy effectively. (Starfish used to occupy central slots, then other creatures placed on the edges)
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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1058482#msg1058482
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2013, 06:17:54 pm »
Ah. A great idea and I had stored away basically something exactly like this, mechanic and name! Though your version has stats and cost which I'm liking more than my version. Hah.

Anyway, good to see it out here. Some recommendations though:

While Mitosis (the spell) does produce a cost of the creature's cost, a reproductive skill such as Mitosis, especially if not given through the spell should try to cost :life, at least for thematic purposes. An increase of the standard version's HP to 2 would produce more synergy with Dry Spell, but also create more of an elemental distinction from :fire Fire, an element of highly fragile creatures. Lastly, in order to really separate this from a simple Aflatoxin on Spark, perhaps both the standard and upgraded versions could produce :water per turn, being Water's token type of creature? I think that would really give it use and create some possible pillarless decks.

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Re: Starfish | Elite Starfish https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=48295.msg1058486#msg1058486
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 06:29:47 pm »
Ah. A great idea and I had stored away basically something exactly like this, mechanic and name! Though your version has stats and cost which I'm liking more than my version. Hah.

Anyway, good to see it out here. Some recommendations though:

While Mitosis (the spell) does produce a cost of the creature's cost, a reproductive skill such as Mitosis, especially if not given through the spell should try to cost :life, at least for thematic purposes. An increase of the standard version's HP to 2 would produce more synergy with Dry Spell, but also create more of an elemental distinction from :fire Fire, an element of highly fragile creatures. Lastly, in order to really separate this from a simple Aflatoxin on Spark, perhaps both the standard and upgraded versions could produce :water per turn, being Water's token type of creature? I think that would really give it use and create some possible pillarless decks.

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If this thing also produced :water , you would actually have a VERY powerful little card on your hands.

You would have one of the best, if not the best, quanta producing creatures in the game.

Just pop the upped version these into a deck with :life pillars and your set...

For some interesting fun, you could do an :aether :ife :water trio using :life mark and :aether pends and put in this, fractal, and empathic bond with flooding and SoPa.
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