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Levgre's rainbow-hope deck v 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4803.msg47409#msg47409
« on: April 02, 2010, 08:41:25 pm »

Okay, I've been working on a deck that utilizes the hope shield.  After a day or two of testing (the deck was 45 cards at first) I've come out with this initial version.

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Here is statistics link, just started recording though ( April 2nd 5 PM central)
http://elementsstatistics.comxa.com/getstatistics.php?dv=148827302

Deck edit: For now I've added one fallen druid and taken out 1 shard of gratitude.

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5oj 5oj 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6qq 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 6u3 74b 74b 77f 7ba 7ba 7ba 7ba 7ba 7do 7k4 7k4 7ms 7n0 7q3 80h 80h 80i 8pj


The basic goal is to get an FFQ out and make fireflies to make an untargetable shield which prevents tons of damage.  Most of the deck focuses on defense, along with a pulverizer and fractal for some offense.

Since it doesn't err too far from typical rainbow, I've been able to beat most gods pretty well so far.  Decking out is a concern of course, but I haven't too much yet.  As long as the pulverizer and fractal are near enough to the top that provides a good supplement to firefly offense. 

There are two cheap shields in there to help hold off until the hope barrier is built.  I think the AI may even forgo targeting the fog shield at times because it is so cheap!  The turtle shield works well against gods like Fire Queen, it produces fireflies twice at half the rate because the queens are put into stasis.  With Graboids, there is a 2 turn delay before they evolve, then your otyugh has 2 turns to devour them.

The wind tower is in there to perhaps help get the FFQ out in a timely manner, or to build up quantum so you can fractal a firefly and play 6-8 quickly (using both life and air quantum, instead of just life, to make fireflies).

So, the deck will likely change/evolve some, but this version works pretty well so I thought I'd post it, so I could get critiques and people could work off of it.  There are cards that would be nice to add, of course, but I was trying to avoid needing hourglasses so I wanted to make it quite small.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2012, 05:39:32 pm by willng3 »

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Re: Levgre's rainbow-hope deck v 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4803.msg47422#msg47422
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 09:15:45 pm »
Seems interesting. The only problem would be those 2-3 damage reduction shields that will shut down your damage. ie. Enchant Diamond Shield and Jade Shield. Do you have any stats?

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Re: Levgre's rainbow-hope deck v 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4803.msg47430#msg47430
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 09:32:45 pm »
Seems interesting. The only problem would be those 2-3 damage reduction shields that will shut down your damage. ie. Enchant Diamond Shield and Jade Shield. Do you have any stats?
I'll get stats up soon.  Against Miracle you can fractal dragons and kill miracle by surprise, and against the other god you could do blue crawlers or forest spirits.

Diamond shield would be harder, but I'm not sure how often that will be the factor that leads to a loss versus seism or obliterator.  If there's enough quantum you can use a monster otyugh, and a couple fractal-ed graboids.  A fallen druid may be added if that seems best.

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Re: Levgre's rainbow-hope deck v 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4803.msg47433#msg47433
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 09:45:54 pm »
Ice shield > turtle shield

Add eternity

And change wind tower to RoL

This seems to be better, just a thought tho

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Re: Levgre's rainbow-hope deck v 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4803.msg47443#msg47443
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 09:57:21 pm »
Ice shield > turtle shield

Add eternity

And change wind tower to RoL

This seems to be better, just a thought tho
The biggest issue is ice shield is more expensive.  I want the shield to get out asap to keep life up, and the goal is to replace it with hope mid-game anyways.  It certainly could be the better choice though, perhaps.

The issue with eternity would be the cost, sometimes it's nearly useless.  So unless decking out seems a big issue I may forgo it.

I'm not sure about ray of light.  It's so easily killed, and unless you have a fractal also, it's not of too much use.

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Re: Levgre's rainbow-hope deck v 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4803.msg47447#msg47447
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 09:59:06 pm »
Ice shield > turtle shield

Add eternity

And change wind tower to RoL

This seems to be better, just a thought tho
The biggest issue is ice shield is more expensive.  I want the shield to get out asap to keep life up.

I'm not sure about ray of light.  It's so easily killed, and unless you have a fractal also, it's not of too much use.
I just thought fractual RoL is faster for hope, compare to powering all the fireflies...

And turtle shield is only good if you dont use eternity

I suppose you can keep 1-2 rewind instead of a eternity in case of decking out, this gives you a short buffer

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Re: Levgre's rainbow-hope deck v 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4803.msg47519#msg47519
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2010, 01:20:04 am »
I would test with some changes.
An Eternity+RoL to keep yourself from decking-out for a long time. If you add three Time Towers, forever.
A Miracle to help getting back the life lost before the Hope is put into play or for emergencies.
A second Fractal for some Rain of Fire issues.
And Hourglasses if the deck become too slow.

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Re: Levgre's rainbow-hope deck v 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4803.msg47524#msg47524
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2010, 01:26:54 am »
If you're producing a lot of light quanta, you may as well use sundials. They stall and since they offer cheap draws, it's almost like not having them at all. Most rainbows steer clear of sundials unless they are large, but they should work great in this deck.

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Re: Levgre's rainbow-hope deck v 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4803.msg47579#msg47579
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2010, 03:14:38 am »
Take out the wind tower and replace with a fractal/steal/explode, one wind tower alone there does not help much let alone you get it drawn at early rounds. \

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Re: Levgre's rainbow-hope deck v 1.21 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=4803.msg47593#msg47593
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2010, 03:39:56 am »
I'm trying to look at your stats but it says there is malware on the page....

 

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