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Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017295#msg1017295
« on: November 23, 2012, 06:34:52 pm »
NAME:
Forest Tiger
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 4
TEXT:
Augment : When a creature enters your side of the field, that creature gains +1 | +1 until the end of the turn.
NAME:
Jade Tiger
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 4
TEXT:
Augment : When a creature enters your side of the field, that creature gains +2 | +2 until the end of the turn.

ART:
EmeraldTiger
IDEA:
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NOTES:
A Life card that gives creatures an initial boost. Useful for pumping up creatures produced by Mitosis or Fractal.

Augment triggers for each seperate creature that enters the field, then subtracts that bonus after all creatures attack. For example, a Spark will become 5 | 2, deal 5 damage, and then die as a 3 | 0.

Tiger's effect will stack.
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« Last Edit: November 26, 2012, 11:26:08 pm by Zblader »

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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017301#msg1017301
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2012, 07:28:44 pm »
This looks like a fun idea and is (probably) balanced.  It would make for some interesting new scorpion duo decks (dune scorp, deathstalker) as well as enabling certain other sorts, like life/aether fractal spark, or whatever.  I have two comments for consideration, though:

1) Does the ability stack?  It would likely be too powerful if you could stack these; I'd point to nightfall/eclipse as precedent.

2) Would it be possible to reword the ability slightly?  Until I read the notes, I thought that the TIGER was getting the temporary buff when you played other creatures that turn.  That would also be an interesting ability, but it's a completely different card.  Changing 'it' to 'that creature' would solve my misunderstanding.

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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017302#msg1017302
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2012, 07:29:58 pm »
I was referring to this --> as it was done by Thalas, what is here i made.
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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017326#msg1017326
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2012, 09:58:09 pm »
I was referring to this --> as it was done by Thalas, what is here i made.
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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017328#msg1017328
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2012, 10:06:55 pm »
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Augment triggers for each separate creature that enters the field, then subtracts that bonus after all creatures attack. For example, a Spark will become 5 | 2, deal 5 damage, and then die as a 3 | 0.

I would think after that creature attacks would make more sense for a temporary buff.


This ability can be evaluated using the fiction of pretending the Tiger receives the one turn buff. Thus the Tiger is a 4+X|4+X where X is the average number of creatures to enter your side per turn.

There are 3 cases to consider:
1) Mitosis cheap creatures [Frog]
2) Spawner creatures (Pharaoh/Firefly Queen)
3) Malignant Cell
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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017334#msg1017334
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2012, 10:37:58 pm »
Do two tigers stack?

If so, good for scorpion duos.
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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017357#msg1017357
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2012, 12:53:37 am »
Do two tigers stack?

If so, good for scorpion duos.
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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017435#msg1017435
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2012, 01:31:04 pm »
Do the tiger itself get the bonus when it first enters the field?
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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017440#msg1017440
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2012, 02:32:13 pm »
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For example, a Spark will become 5 | 2, deal 5 damage, and then die as a 3 | 0.
I see no interest in giving a 2/2 buff it ends up before enemy's turn 2/0 would do the same i think . I understand that it is for balancing in case of fractal /spark but still ...
Cool idea thought

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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017456#msg1017456
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2012, 04:58:34 pm »
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For example, a Spark will become 5 | 2, deal 5 damage, and then die as a 3 | 0.
I see no interest in giving a 2/2 buff it ends up before enemy's turn 2/0 would do the same i think . I understand that it is for balancing in case of fractal /spark but still ...
Cool idea thought
The spark still dies so the only reason for the hp increase is Skull Shield or Adrenaline vs the other CC shields.
It makes it weaker vs Gravity Shield.
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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017466#msg1017466
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2012, 05:45:49 pm »
Do the tiger itself get the bonus when it first enters the field?
No. A Tiger can receive a boost from another tiger, though.
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2) Would it be possible to reword the ability slightly?  Until I read the notes, I thought that the TIGER was getting the temporary buff when you played other creatures that turn.  That would also be an interesting ability, but it's a completely different card.  Changing 'it' to 'that creature' would solve my misunderstanding.
Sure. I'll include the rewording in the next update of the card.

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Re: Forest Tiger | Jade Tiger https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44808.msg1017503#msg1017503
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2012, 09:41:06 pm »
I really like the ideas behind this card. A temporary buff mechanism is great, and life does balance out the power associated with the tiger, as well as its inherently high cost. I don't have any good enhancement suggestions.

 

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