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Who would be the best Master of Darkness?

bogtro
14 (22.6%)
Odii Odsen
18 (29%)
Annele
24 (38.7%)
Rutarete
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Total Members Voted: 61

Voting closed: November 05, 2012, 01:27:06 pm

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Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011483#msg1011483
« on: October 29, 2012, 01:27:07 pm »
Phase 3 - Community Vote

Phase ends when above poll expires.

It's time to vote for your favorite Master candidate!  Every community member has one vote. You can change your vote at any time as long as there is still time on the clock.

Vote based on who you think would make the best Master of that element. Do not vote based on who is the best player or who you know personally. Try to pick someone who you think would help the community the most.  Feel free to ask the candidates difficult questions to help you make your decision.

For reference, here are the 6th Trials Standings (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,43965.0.html) and Phase 1 Submission (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,43688.0.html) threads.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011516#msg1011516
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2012, 02:21:03 pm »
i will probably be coming back here to ask a few questions because dawkness OP.

1- ( to all challengers ) I would like to know if you guys have full upgraded darkness sets, and if not, how far you are to getting it.

2- ( Bogtro ) I've known you for a while now, and tbh i was rooting for you. how can you explain your semi-MIAness in phase 2?

3- ( Rutarete ) You were with us in this war in darkness. How do you feel this improved your knowledge of the element?

4- ( Annele ) You are currently leading by quite a bit in these trials. Did you think you would get this far when you signed up?

5- ( Odii ) I don't actually know you very much outside of events, could you tell us a bit about yourself? ( no need to write long paragraphs )
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011534#msg1011534
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2012, 03:34:29 pm »
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I'm currently 18, (a month from 19) in my first year of college. My major is Computer Science, and if I were to have a minor/double major it would be Japanese. I love learning the language and culture, and plan to study abroad in Japan in the coming years.

Jijo:

I do not have a full set of upped darkness cards. For the moment, since I can't check for sure at the moment, I'll put my guess of what I have at 30 - 50. Not much, I know. I could, for this purpose, put all my effort into upgrading darkness from now on. I usually work on decks at a time, not elements.

I feel that the restricted Deckbuilding has opened me to some very creative decks and new synergies I hadn't seen before. Now that phase two is over, I plan to explore and rebuild the decks I made without restrictions to see how we'll they will do.

What do you think is missing (if anything) in terms of darkness card to be a favorite for winning the war?

A Debuff.

to all candidates: Do you think Parasite is underpowered and underused? If yes, how it can be improved?
Both. BUT, only UP in terms of stats. The infection ability is quite powerful, especially in number, stacking to kill quickly. However, because it's a slower method, instant CC is often preferred, making it UU.
How would I fix this? Either give it a small stat boost that doesn't necessitate raising cost, or change the infect amount to two poison counters (and maybe a 2 :death activating cost). Either one makes the card more potent, which I think leads to it being used more.

Gandora:
Question to everyone: If you had to do a :darkness :water deck, what strategy would it rely on and why? (Build the deck or just mention some cards and explain the synergies).

Here's an outline for the moment:
Spoiler for Hidden:
Vampires
Steals
Congeals/squids
Cloaks
Nymph tear or two
(SoPa)

The most important part of the deck is vamp + freeze, which works well together because what one doesn't stall, the other backs it up. In case you don't mind shards, then the SoPa can help with the vampires even more, along with stalling.

Laxadarap:

Darkness is one of the complete elements, but it is generally a very slow element.  It takes time to get stuff going, and you don't see it having blazing fast rushes like death and fire.  Could you build a darkness "rush" with 2/3 in element cards? Upped is allowed.
Spoiler for Hidden:
Mark of Entropy
All cards upped:

6 Obsidian Towers
3 Eclipse
6 Vamp Daggers
6 Flying Weapon
4 Chaos Power
2 Siphon Life
2 Vampires
1 Gargoyle
Spoiler for The below is less than 2/3 darkness:
Mark of Darkness
All cards upped:

6 Obsidian Towers
3 Eclipse
4 Vamp Daggers
4 Flying Weapon
2 Bloodsucker
5 Nova
1 Epinephrine
2 Precognition
2 Cloak
1 Rage Potion

This deck, while untested at the moment, runs on all very cheap cards, which allows it to be fast. Te main focus of the deck is flying daggers, which are multipurposeful.

Edit: After a few tests, (with a mark of Aether for all the tests), making a few changes. - 2 Obsidian Pillars. + Nova + Momentum.
Edit 2: Oh yeah, 2/3 in element... nevermind about ^ change then.

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To Bogtro and Rutarete: How does being in Team Darkness in War#5 change your PvP experience?
To all: How would you improve the community if you become the Master?
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1) well, it certainly made it much more enjoyable than I had expected. Te wonky decks we used then stirred in me a drive to make more wonky decks, which subsequently get put in the arena or go to PvP2 (more the arena than pvp recently)

2) a)Cloak the forum in Darkness. b) make a deck that's ~ as famous as willng's signature frogtal as a contribution to the community.

To those not named Annele, why should I vote for you given your inconsistent performance in phases 1 and 2? (please don't write a book)
So that you can see how I do as Master ;D
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011567#msg1011567
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2012, 05:08:27 pm »
i will probably be coming back here to ask a few questions because dawkness OP.

1- ( to all challengers ) I would like to know if you guys have full upgraded darkness sets, and if not, how far you are to getting it.

5- ( Odii ) I don't actually know you very much outside of events, could you tell us a bit about yourself? ( no need to write long paragraphs )

1- No full uppgraded. But More than the half for sure, mostly 6 copies. I have enough electrum and other sources to upgrade them all for darkness.

5- Okay, I don't know what you exactly want to know about me. I am 23 years old, from Germany. I love pvp events, tourneys and of course the league. I spend much time for pvp and I am very ambitious. Unfortunately I have no success in my first trials and I doubt to attain to finals. The reasons are that we had communicative porblems in darkness and different timezones made it more difficult than we want. And I had not much time for Phase 1. The second phase was a little confusing. If you have any other question about me, feel free to ask :)
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011571#msg1011571
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2012, 05:33:50 pm »
Question to everyone: If you had to do a :darkness :water deck, what strategy would it rely on and why? (Build the deck or just mention some cards and explain the synergies).
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011579#msg1011579
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2012, 06:04:30 pm »
:darknessbig ANNELE :darknessbig

WHO AM I?
My name is Annele, and I am a New Zealander from New Zealand. I became a Curator on the forums after 3 months of being on it, and am quite well know to anyone who has been around since then.

WHAT HAVE I DONE FOR THE COMMUNITY?
I am a Curator. I Curate cards. This is very important, or Kuro would go into overdrive and blow up. Or your cards would pile up and never move anywhere.
Speaking of which, I better get onto Candidates...

WHEN DID I JOIN ELEMENTS, AND THE FORUM?
I joined Elements ages ago, maybe the year it was made. I dunno, I didn't play it too seriously until last year, when I made the account that is now my main.
I joined the forum on my 13th birthday. One of the most epic days of my life.

WHERE ARE MY STRENGTHS?
I admit, I am not the best PvPer, but I see myself as a people's person. Many people (okay, 4) have called me nice, polite, funny, etc. I am beginning to sound big-headed, so I will shut up now.
I know a lot about how the game works though, after ages of forum stalking. Making me Darkness master would be nowhere near suicide for Team Darkness.

WHY SHOULD YOU VOTE FOR ME?
I am ANNELE. I am not a Darkness Vetran, like the rest of my opponents, which is why you should vote for me. I plan to put my own fresh slant on Darkness. New blood is always good.
Also, although I am not the most experienced competitive PvP player (to say the least) I have won 3/4 of my matches, beating both of my Darkness opponents, one with a 3-0 streak, and the other I won had not lost to until he had to go. I only lost to Helston, who I doubt will participate in War due to his General status.
Also;


Spoiler for Q & A:
1- ( to all challengers ) I would like to know if you guys have full upgraded darkness sets, and if not, how far you are to getting it.

I am close, and am also able to get it quite easily. I just can't be bothered unless it is necessary. (winning trials would make it necessary)



4- ( Annele ) You are currently leading by quite a bit in these trials. Did you think you would get this far when you signed up?

No, actually. I was kind of hoping to pull through in Phase 3 as being the only non darkness vetran, but the RNG seems to be in my favour, and so does my prediction of decks. However, votes are still appreciated ;)



Question to everyone: If you had to do a :darkness :water deck, what strategy would it rely on and why? (Build the deck or just mention some cards and explain the synergies).

As the nymphs now have somewhat good stats, I'd probably make a Nymph Tears/Liquid Shadow deck. However, I doubt this would be the best deck to use, I am better at making fun decks to enjoy using.



Darkness is one of the complete elements, but it is generally a very slow element.  It takes time to get stuff going, and you don't see it having blazing fast rushes like death and fire.  Could you build a darkness "rush" with 2/3 in element cards? Upped is allowed.

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Can get 6 TTW with the right draw, which occurs about half the time. The other half is about an 8 TTW.



What do you think is missing (if anything) in terms of darkness card to be a favorite for winning the war?

Darkness is one of the most complete Elements, it is why I like it so much. However, for War, I would believe it needs stronger synergies with other Elements.
A card like this:


could tightly bind together Darkness and Life (an Element with strong Darkness connections in the first place), and resulting in decks that could be very strong in War.



to all candidates: Do you think Parasite is underpowered and underused? If yes, how it can be improved?

I personally think the Infect ability is somewhat a side-ability, so it needs something to make it worthwhile, like Toadfish has decent attack. Without changing the card completely, I would suggest lowering the casting cost by 1, but imo it needs a total rework. For example, something like what I submitted in the Deck-In-A-Card competition:


Which carries on the theme, but has a slightly more competitive ability. (Especially with Nightfall/Eclipse.)



To Annele and Odii Odsen: From outsider's perspective, how did Team Darkness perform in War#5?

I didn't particularly follow war, as I was fairly new when it was going on, and my main aim was to get known in the field I liked best. (Note the -ed.) However, I would say that it may have been down to carelessness, RNG, or old stale blood. Don't get me wrong,, I love TorB and all he's done for Darkness, but ideas get reused, and it would be nice to have a new perspective.



To all: How would you improve the community if you become the Master?

I am planning to improve the Community as a Curator, though I don't think that's what you mean. As a Master, of course I would try to win War, and I would try to encourage new deckbuilders, even if their ideas are not new. Of course, it is better to check first, but who knows? You encourage someone to be innovative, and they could go and build the next Instosis. (Darkness style)



Darkness is one of the most complete elements, but what is it missing? How would you patch this gap?

This is similar to a previous question, though I think that is about War, whereas this is about the Element in general.
Personally, I feel Darkness needs a way to be able to concentrate its strength into one aspect, while sacrificing others. For example, maybe sacrificing rush for more control/stability, like this:


Or maybe a way to do the opposite, like this:




I don't see much cloak usage. Build me a deck with 4 of them!

I actually use Cloak a lot. It saved my butt facing Ruta once.
I find it can patch up a lot of weaknesses in Darkness decks, for example in VaderSader to avoid being Paradoxed, or like this:

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A deck I made, but didn't use, for Phase 2. It removes one of Chaos Vamps's deadly enemies: CC. Without restrictions, I would probably mod it to this:

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What does the element of darkness mean to you?

Hmm... tough one. I love the theme of Darkness, GETTING WHAT ONE WANTS, WHEN ONE WANTS IT. I also love how it is complete, and does not have to resort to duos to fill in gaps. I love how most of the time, it is hard to plan a deck against Darkness, as a deck the destroys one Darkness deck will, in turn, be destroyed itself by another. However, dims will destroy mono-life, as there is NO chance of PC, etc.
I think this is a very important strength to play on in War.



My question to all of you: Do you think you can lead Darkness to win War 6, and why? Say I wound up on your team. What makes you qualified to lead me? What makes you worthy of replacing ToRB?

TorB was - is - excellent. He can make any strategy Dark, and is really strong in PvP. At the moment, all I can offer are fresh ideas, but given the opportunity, I will take on knowledge and become like him, though with different ideas. This is what makes each Master different.
I learn extremely quickly, and get on well with others (when I want to ;)). I can also teach others in a way that's not demeaning.
As a leader, I like to listen to everyone's ideas, but I like to know WHY. If you believe the deck I want to use against Life will fail, I'd like to know why, and if your reasoning is valid, I will certainly take in your opinion, and probably go with it. There are very few things someone can't change my mind about.



In addition, I too would like to know how you plan on contributing to the community in general. There is more to Mastership than war after all, and I'd like to see some glory brought to this element.

This is like a previous question, though I'll answer it anyways.
I plan on showing the community that through Darkness, one can get what they want, and also to help other Elements become complete, like Darkness. Of course, I can't enforce anything onto Zanzarino, so the next best thing is to encourage cards that are not just cool, or thematic, but help COMPLETE the Element, if you know what I mean. For example moomoose's Psion, gave Aether Pseudo-PC, and a new theme that can be built upon.



To Annele, do you prefer dogs or cats? And why?

I think they both have their ups and downs. For example, I hate yappy dogs or huge scary dogs. I also hate really fluffy or skinny or hissy cats. However, if a dog is docile and loving, it is likely I will fall in love with it. Same goes for a cat that likes being brushed, but isn't going to molt everywhere.

Basically: I like and hate them both the same.

BTW, my mum is allergic to cats, if that helps.



To all: If you become master, will you have enough time to be a general? If not, whom do you plan to make a general (if you already got some idea)?

DEFINITELY. War occurs over my summer holidays, so I will have plenty of time, as I am not going anywhere. I look forward to War.



( All ) If you had to take a card from any element and make it darkness, which would it be? ( ghost not allowed )

Why would I choose Ghost? It creates a new slant to Time, and making it Darkness would ruin that.
As to what I would choose, it'd probably be Black Hole. Stealing quanta from your opponent to heal you sounds exactly like a Darkness card. It would also synergise greatly with Devourer, AND require a complete makeover for SoFo.



(Annele) If you had the opportunity to steal points from your competitors to hae an edge in the final battle, would you do it?

Of course! That's what being Darkness is all about. Stealing from your opponents to make you stronger. If I was given that opportunity, I would take it. I'm not like those pussy Light Elementals (no offence to the people in Light Trials) who would do the 'right' thing. I want to win, and I'll do it any way I can.  :P
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011585#msg1011585
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2012, 06:21:13 pm »
Question to everyone: If you had to do a :darkness :water deck, what strategy would it rely on and why? (Build the deck or just mention some cards and explain the synergies).

Nymphs were buffed. Thatswhy I used two of my codes I won, to get Nymphs Queen. Nice rush, with some healing from the darkness beauty.

or something like this:

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Healing is like a reliable shield.


Or I would build a controll deck with arctic Squids (maybe freeze). It would be slower, but annoying for the opponent. Big DMG from Obsidian Dragon.

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011606#msg1011606
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2012, 07:35:33 pm »
Darkness is one of the complete elements, but it is generally a very slow element.  It takes time to get stuff going, and you don't see it having blazing fast rushes like death and fire.  Could you build a darkness "rush" with 2/3 in element cards? Upped is allowed.
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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011661#msg1011661
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2012, 10:01:46 pm »
Darkness is one of the complete elements, but it is generally a very slow element.  It takes time to get stuff going, and you don't see it having blazing fast rushes like death and fire.  Could you build a darkness "rush" with 2/3 in element cards? Upped is allowed.

You are right, it isn't as fast as other elements.

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011663#msg1011663
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2012, 10:07:53 pm »
What do you think is missing (if anything) in terms of darkness card to be a favorite for winning the war?

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011678#msg1011678
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2012, 10:46:30 pm »
What do you think is missing (if anything) in terms of darkness card to be a favorite for winning the war?

Darkness has everything and is one of the most variable elements: Healing, denial, CC, PC, DMG, a buff card, a nice weapon, a nice shield and other useful cards like cloak. I don't know what darkness needs more...

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Re: Phase 3 - Community Vote https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=44393.msg1011699#msg1011699
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2012, 11:56:24 pm »
to all candidates: Do you think Parasite is underpowered and underused? If yes, how it can be improved?
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