Elixir of the Gods | Elixir of the Gods

[Kamietsu]

NAME: Elixir of the Gods ELEMENT: Water COST: 3 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Draw two cards a turn and your mark generates 3 of its quanta. Lasts 2 turns.	NAME: Elixir of the Gods ELEMENT: Water COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Draw two cards a turn and your mark generates 3 of its quanta. Lasts 2 turns.

ART: Kamietsu IDEA: Kamietsu NOTES: The effect does not stack. So if you use two, you just wasted the second one. Each one just resets the turn counter back to two. SERIES:

[Rutarete]

The name sounds very familiar... but anyway, I like it, it's perfectly thematic! Except... Should it not be called Elixir of the False Gods?

[moomoose]

similar cards have been designed, dont recall if they had durations or not though.   i remember because i tried something similar, but had them pointed out to me

[choongmyoung]

Ohyeah be the false god!

[Anarook]

Mmmm, I find it a bit too powerful...

Double draw, triple mark for 2|1 ?

[Cheesy111]

Is this balanced compared to Precog?

[choongmyoung]

It's 2 cards drawing (worth 2 quanta) + 4 extra quanta = 6
But it's delayed spell (-1)
Since it is a spell, PC and CC is no deal (+1)

8 | 6 I see.

[Rutarete]

It's 2 cards drawing (worth 2 quanta) + 4 extra quanta = 6
But it's delayed spell (-1)
Since it is a spell, PC and CC is no deal (+1)

8 | 6 I see.

Why is 4 quanta worth +4 cost? Pillars are one quanta and worth 0 cost.

[Joseph7]

I like this card idea, however I think that its cost should be slightly upped to 4|3 or 5|3. Nice idea!

[Elbirn]

Precog draws 1 card and offers a vaguely helpful "bonus" effect for 2
This draws 2 additional cards and generates 4 additional  over the course of 2 turns for 2|1.

It's probably fine as is, but maybe 3|2 would be better.

[Anarook]

By your description how is 3|2 even remotely correct?
It's a spell with a duration and thus un-counterable.
If we equate the cost to precog it should cost at least 4.(Not counting the quanta production which is hard to cost)

I also have to ask if the turn count on this begins on the current turn(I assume it does)

[Elbirn]

By your description how is 3|2 even remotely correct?
It's a spell with a duration and thus un-counterable.
If we equate the cost to precog it should cost at least 4.(Not counting the quanta production which is hard to cost)

I also have to ask if the turn count on this begins on the current turn(I assume it does)

Why?

Precognition is 2|1. Using it allows you to draw a card (+1) and allows you to see your opponents hand, a situational bonus (+1). Balanced.

Elixir of the God's at a hypothetical 3|2. Using it allows you to draw two cards (+2) over the course of two turns (Which could be worth minus cost since it's a delayed effect, but let's ignore that) and offers 4 additional mark quanta, a situational bonus (+1) over the course of two turns (which again, could be worth minus cost, especially considering that other quanta generating whatnots are generally 0 cost)

I mean, I'm no expert on balancing or the theory behind it or anything. Hell a lot of that was pulled out of my arse. But it sounds reasonable to me. Also, you mentioned this being a spell, thus un-counterable, thus should cost more. But so is precog. *shrug* I do agree that the current 2|1 is definitely a lower cost than is warranted.