Quantic Pool | Quantic Tide

[Drake_XIV]

NAME: Quantic Pool ELEMENT: Water COST: 6 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Generate 1 quanta in each quanta pool that has not been affected for one turn.	NAME: Quantic Tide ELEMENT: Water COST: 8 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Generate 2 quanta in each quanta pool that has not been affected for one turn.

ART: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1018484 IDEA: Drake_XIV, DigitoriiX NOTES: It generates one quanta in any pool that has not changed in the course of a turn.  So for every quanta pool that has not increased or decreased by any effect other than Quantic Pool | Quantic Tide, one quanta will be given to them. Spoiler for Hidden: P1 plays Water Pillar P1 plays Quantic Pool P1 plays Abyss Crawler P1 plays Mind Flayer P1 ends turn Water Pillar generates 1 water Quantic Pool generates 11 quanta, one in each element except for P2 plays Firefly Queen P2 ends turn P1 plays Water Pillar Mind Flayer lobotomizes Firefly Queen P1 ends turn Water Pillar generates 2 Quantic Pool generates 10 quanta, one for each element besides and However, if a pillar replaces the quanta used to play a card, scrambled by Discord, or drained by Black Hole, it will treat it as if it had not changed. Quantic Pool | Quantic Tide stacks and can be targeted by Earthquake | Quicksand. Quantic Pool | Quantic Tide only affects the owner's side. SERIES:

[Elbirn]

So it's a permanent  -based version of nova/supernova, that only works if the quanta of any given element has not increased or decreased. Me gusta. It kind of fits in with the whole "Water has synergy with everything" thing that it has going on, and would offer an interesting alternative to novabows.

I'm not entirely sure how balancing works or what the theory is behind balancing, aside from using pure common sense. But it seems to me that it would be better if blackhole/discord affected the quantic pool effect. (God that sentence was grammatically harrowing.) The card needs to have it's counters, no? Plus simply excluding some forms of quanta change for no reason doesn't seem to make sense.

[Drake_XIV]

It is affected by those cards.  I just meant that your opponent uses BH [-3 ] but your 3 Water Towers come in before Quantic Tide [+3 ], Quantic Tide will act as if it hadn't changed at all.  It's just some micromanaging, but it's there.

[Elbirn]

oh, sorry. Misunderstood. So as long as the quanta of any given element is the same at the end of the turn as it was at the end of last turn, quantic pool takes effect. Gotcha. ^_^ Really like the idea, nicely done.

[DigitoriiX]

oh, sorry. Misunderstood. So as long as the quanta of any given element is the same at the end of the turn as it was at the end of last turn, quantic pool takes effect. Gotcha. ^_^ Really like the idea, nicely done.

Psssh, it was my idea. I let him steal it... wait... o_o

[DigitoriiX]

IMO, Upped shouldn't generate 2 per turn. That makes it a bit too OP for my likings, because if this is played before any towers it could still give off the extra quanta. I believe it should either a) cost 5  , b) have it act as a quantum pillar as well without reducing the effects and still costing 8  , or c) be immaterial because lolimmortalpermanents.

[Elbirn]

It was my understanding that Pool effects take place after pillars/pends/mark generation... Is that not the case? Also, I like that upped generates 2 quantum, makes it on par with nova/supernova. Sidenote, I love the way that it has anti-synergy with nova.

[Drake_XIV]

IMO, Upped shouldn't generate 2 per turn. That makes it a bit too OP for my likings, because if this is played before any towers it could still give off the extra quanta. I believe it should either a) cost 5  , b) have it act as a quantum pillar as well without reducing the effects and still costing 8  , or c) be immaterial because lolimmortalpermanents.

Even though your original suggestion was 3...

It was my understanding that Pool effects take place after pillars/pends/mark generation... Is that not the case? Also, I like that upped generates 2 quantum, makes it on par with nova/supernova. Sidenote, I love the way that it has anti-synergy with nova.

It depends on the order of the permanents.  If you played pillars and pendulums before Quantic Pool, then those will be accounted prior.

[DigitoriiX]

IMO, Upped shouldn't generate 2 per turn. That makes it a bit too OP for my likings, because if this is played before any towers it could still give off the extra quanta. I believe it should either a) cost 5  , b) have it act as a quantum pillar as well without reducing the effects and still costing 8  , or c) be immaterial because lolimmortalpermanents.

Even though your original suggestion was 3...

3 quantum pillars? I meant it would generate 3 random quanta LIKE a quantum pillar. If there was any miscommunication...

Edit: Or did you mean I saaid it would generate 3 quanta per element when upped? That's another miscommunication, because I said make it dual-function as a quantum pillar and a quantum pool.

[Drake_XIV]

Updated with art

[Drake_XIV]

Bumped

[storyteller]

good, but overpowered

if you run Water, and throw a few pillars, and play this, you can get a lot of quanta very easily, powering shards or your creatures or whatever. It is very, very strong. Have it be 3 every other turn or something, but 2 every tyurn of unchanged is too much. It also has potential for abuse... consider you have X quanta of some type. you use abilities that cost 2 of that type. this, if played in the right order, sees that as being the same, thus generates free quanta for that element. in other words, you can manipulate this into generating quanta you did use, instead of just filling gaps. I like the card a lot, but it is a bit strong... its cost is good for the ability, but it is just too much strength with few counters.