Coastguards [Water-Earth] [SoP] [Pvp2] [Annoying]

[Evan_85]

After many attempts of making mean but original decks, I came up with this. So let me give you... Coastguards.

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(inspired by Schuk's 'Patient Wardens')

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It's straightforward, and very annoying. Wardens and Octopi can deal with any creature they face, while they get real fat with patience. Flying creatures are kept frozen, while the rest is killed. Once the damage grows above 33 or 50, it can finish in 2-3 hits. Or if you face a deck that you can counter indefinately, you can go for OTK with added annoyance.

SoFos are the inevitable colorless perma-control while they can also grow along with the rest of the creatures, so turning them to holes is not advised.

Purify is to outheal the opponent's weapon and to stay alive in a poisonous environment.

The quanta production is high for a reason - when facing a rush, it's imperative to play some creatures fast, and be able to use their ability until you can kill or lock down anything that comes. Also playing a sofo can become an emergency, and it's handy if you can do it early in such situations.


During testing, I could take down fire rushes and rainbows with it, neither mono-darks were a problem with a good start. It's weakest spot is the common mono-ae. While it's pretty unaffected by the dim-shield, a spam of immortals outdamages it due to the lack of shield. A lucky Poseidon draw can mean a win, but it's not enough for steady arena use.

[ItzSean]

No SoFos, just no. The two elements you're dealing with don't have any PC. Deal with it. -2 SoF. +1 Warden +1 Water Tower.

[Spielkind]

No SoFos, just no. The two elements you're dealing with don't have any PC. Deal with it. -2 SoF. +1 Warden +1 Water Tower.

i guess you never played water and earth-decks?! there are many cards that proof you wrong, and one i see above... *look at poseidon*


i love that deck, will test it soon, cause water and earth are sooooo kewl!  8)

[Evan_85]

I think the post of Sean could be a base of a long long debate. That I don't feel to get into. And especially not in this thread.

So let me state my opinion just to never say it again. I hate sofos, just as anyone else most sane people. Can't wait for it's nerf. I'd love to take my mindgate deck to pvp2, but in the sofo age that wont happen.

But until there are elements without PC, I'm not going to limit my decks by not using the colorless substitute that everyone else fields like there is no tomorrow.

By the way, if I'd replace them, I'd probably pack two quicksands.

[ItzSean]

i guess you never played water and earth-decks?! there are many cards that proof you wrong, and one i see above... *look at poseidon*

Let me ask you something. Can you use poseidon to take out an hourglass? What about a permafrost shield? An Eclipse? W-.. Whats that? No? You cant? Okay. That's what I meant by 'Permanent Control'. Also, you act like there's a list of pc cards for water and earth. I'll give you the weapon for towers. EQ/Quicksand also for towers as well, okay. BUT, there are no ways for earth or water to directly destroy other non-tower permanents. Which is why I said indirectly, he's just using sofo for the fact that it's OP and rationalizes with 'It is another attacker that gains atk from SoP.' He himself even admitted to joining the SoFo-buse wagon even though he 'hates' it.

But until there are elements without PC, I'm not going to limit my decks by not using the colorless substitute that everyone else fields like there is no tomorrow.

Cant beat them, join 'um, eh? Im not here to flame or start a war, but I just see the blatant use of SoFo just to use SoFo as annoying.

[Poker Alho]

i guess you never played water and earth-decks?! there are many cards that proof you wrong, and one i see above... *look at poseidon*

Let me ask you something. Can you use poseidon to take out an hourglass? What about a permafrost shield? An Eclipse? W-.. Whats that? No? You cant? Okay. That's what I meant by 'Permanent Control'. Also, you act like there's a list of pc cards for water and earth. I'll give you the weapon for towers. EQ/Quicksand also for towers as well, okay. BUT, there are no ways for earth or water to directly destroy other non-tower permanents. Which is why I said indirectly, he's just using sofo for the fact that it's OP and rationalizes with 'It is another attacker that gains atk from SoP.' He himself even admitted to joining the SoFo-buse wagon even though he 'hates' it.

But until there are elements without PC, I'm not going to limit my decks by not using the colorless substitute that everyone else fields like there is no tomorrow.

Cant beat them, join 'um, eh? Im not here to flame or start a war, but I just see the blatant use of SoFo just to use SoFo as annoying.

its not the player's fault that a card can be abused to the point of becoming the most OP card in the current metagame. if SoFo turns the deck better, then you should put it instead of ignoring it and get trampled because of it. He simply says he hates the card because right now, nearly every deck can be better by adding SoFo, wich is something everyone is doing atm. hate the game, not the player

btw, solid deck you got there, but maybe 2 poseidons for stability? they can be pretty useful because it allows your SoFos to use their 3 hits on other permanents besides towers/pends

[Evan_85]

btw, solid deck you got there, but maybe 2 poseidons for stability? they can be pretty useful because it allows your SoFos to use their 3 hits on other permanents besides towers/pends

Actually the deck felt more solid when I replaced Poseidon with a third sofo. Discord, Eternity, Cloak and such shuts the combo down while the deck can deal with pretty much any number of creatures - so I found less use for quanta-denial. I just didn't use sofos on pillars - or just to get them to 16hp to avoid CC. They can grow too on sopa so I only used the third accterion for really annoying permanents.

[redeyesly]

I agree. The poseidon is almost never useful, but sofo is win or lose alot of times, so a 3rd one helps. I just wish there was a way to pack a mirror shield into this. SoW = quit.

[ItzSean]

its not the player's fault that a card can be abused to the point of becoming the most OP card in the current metagame. if SoFo turns the deck better, then you should put it instead of ignoring it and get trampled because of it. He simply says he hates the card because right now, nearly every deck can be better by adding SoFo, which is something everyone is doing atm. hate the game, not the player

So you're saying the game is forcing him to put SoFo into his deck out of peer pressure? Sounds legit.

[rob77dp]

So you're saying the game is forcing him to put SoFo into his deck out of peer pressure? Sounds legit

To me it comes across as he means that because SoFo is powerful enough to improve the deck it "forces" its inclusion.

I see SoFo as powerful enough to warrant inclusion in a deck that has quanta generation to support its casting so as not to hinder significantly the summoning of the deck's "main strategy" - which is a VERY high percentage of the time (sadly).

[Annele]

Just because a card is OP doesn't mean it has to be included in every deck.

Just because a card is OU doesn't mean it cannot be used to improve a deck.



Question to the OP, do you ever use the warden's ability on the SoFo to let it gain more PC? The deck itself looks pretty solid, as others have said. If only there was a cheaper all-permanent control for earth/water. It'd fit much better into this deck.

[Luminous]

i guess you never played water and earth-decks?! there are many cards that proof you wrong, and one i see above... *look at poseidon*

Let me ask you something. Can you use poseidon to take out an hourglass? What about a permafrost shield? An Eclipse? W-.. Whats that? No? You cant? Okay. That's what I meant by 'Permanent Control'. Also, you act like there's a list of pc cards for water and earth. I'll give you the weapon for towers. EQ/Quicksand also for towers as well, okay. BUT, there are no ways for earth or water to directly destroy other non-tower permanents. Which is why I said indirectly, he's just using sofo for the fact that it's OP and rationalizes with 'It is another attacker that gains atk from SoP.' He himself even admitted to joining the SoFo-buse wagon even though he 'hates' it.

But until there are elements without PC, I'm not going to limit my decks by not using the colorless substitute that everyone else fields like there is no tomorrow.

Cant beat them, join 'um, eh? Im not here to flame or start a war, but I just see the blatant use of SoFo just to use SoFo as annoying.

Nonsence. You can OTK with SoP. No need to destroy permafrosts. Against dims,you have poseidon,you can slow down opponent and eventually make im no play cards. An hourglass needs some time towers to work with others. You have poseidon.

Also,stop acting like you are best. Spielkind is really good player.