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Excalibur | Excalibur https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43354.msg540644#msg540644
« on: September 09, 2012, 07:50:51 pm »
NAME:
Excalibur
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
3 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
7|7 when flying
TEXT:
Weapon: deals 7 damage at the end of every turn. Lasts 2 turns.  :water : Return this card to your deck.
NAME:
Excalibur
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
3 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
7|7 when flying
TEXT:
Weapon: deals 7 damage at the end of every turn. Lasts 3 turns.  :water : Return this card to your deck.

ART:
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NOTES:
Excalibur, King Arthur's holy sword. Given to him by the lady of the lake and eventually cast back into the lake.

The disappearance counter will not be given to a crusader.
Using the ability removes the card and places an identical copy on the owner's deck, sort of like Reverse Timing itself.
Hooray for water and light synergy.
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Re: Excalibur | Excalibur https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43354.msg540662#msg540662
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2012, 09:05:54 pm »
Would a crusader also gain the disappearance counter if it endows this? (IIRC a crusader that endows arsenic does not gain its poisonous passive)
And, if the ability was used, would the crusader be returned to the top of the deck, or a copy of Excalibur?
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Re: Excalibur | Excalibur https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43354.msg540663#msg540663
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2012, 09:08:51 pm »
Quote from: CuCN on September 09, 2012, 09:05:54 pm
Would a crusader also gain the disappearance counter if it endows this? (IIRC a crusader that endows arsenic does not gain its poisonous passive)
And, if the ability was used, would the crusader be returned to the top of the deck, or a copy of Excalibur?
Crusaders will not get the disappearance counter.

The crusader will be RT'd since the ability states "this card".
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Re: Excalibur | Excalibur https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43354.msg540681#msg540681
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2012, 12:12:04 am »
The Worst Synergy with Animate Ever!
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(Unupped) Crusader = 8 cost for 10 ATK with mono. Ooh, even better than seraph.
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Crusaders shouldn't have disappeared, since disappearing is passive ability.
If not, The Worst Synergy with Crusader Ever!
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Re: Excalibur | Excalibur https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43354.msg540682#msg540682
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2012, 12:23:09 am »
Maybe you're not supposed to animate it :>

Is the attack too high? Should it be 6 or something? But then it seems to be worse than morning star since morning star is 7 damage for 5 :light and immaterial.
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Re: Excalibur | Excalibur https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43354.msg540684#msg540684
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2012, 12:35:05 am »
Quote from: furballdn on September 10, 2012, 12:23:09 am
Maybe you're not supposed to animate it :>

Is the attack too high? Should it be 6 or something? But then it seems to be worse than morning star since morning star is 7 damage for 5 :light and immaterial.


Well I missed the longsword.. lets think about it.
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You have to rewind Excalibur on every 3 turns, and it costs 1/3 :water per turn.. and blocks drawing 1/3, (drawing is worth 1 quantum) so it's consuming 2/3 quanta per each turn. And more, it's forced to duo.
And then 7 atk with (3 + 1[duo] + 2/3 t) cost seems actually little-bittle UP. maybe 1~2 :light?

Oh shoot, Did I just mentioned 21 damage with 1~2 :light? (with no water?) AAAh so hard to balance.
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Re: Excalibur | Excalibur https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43354.msg540687#msg540687
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2012, 12:43:22 am »
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Re: Excalibur | Excalibur https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43354.msg540705#msg540705
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2012, 02:51:20 am »
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Because that has the :water to save the Saders.
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Re: Excalibur | Excalibur https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43354.msg540706#msg540706
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2012, 02:54:12 am »
Crusaders don't get returned to the deck. They don't inherit the timer of Excalibur.

It's hard to balance a card like this, since if I were to look at short sword | long sword for balance, long sword is OP, skewing the balancing.
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Re: Excalibur | Excalibur https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43354.msg540709#msg540709
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*trollface*

6 excaliburs makes it come fast, and 7 cost 10 atk perfect creatures, 3 :light to get 21 dmg, no need for AM 'cause non-wasting 6 weapons.
Actually ignoring the skill will be better.
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