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Imagerie | Imagerie [Legacy - Forge] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539042#msg539042
« on: September 04, 2012, 05:16:28 pm »
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
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ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:entropy :entropy : Dream: Generate a random creature or mutant, it may be an illusion.
NAME:
Imagerie
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:entropy :entropy : Dream: Generate a random upgraded creature or mutant, it may be an illusion.

ART:
EmeraldTiger
IDEA:
EmeraldTiger
NOTES:
Only the player that possesses the creature will know if it is an illusion.
An illusion creature looks like a normal creature/mutant except if it is targeted in any way it disappears. It does not generate death effects.
SERIES:

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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539056#msg539056
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2012, 06:57:22 pm »
Awesome. I like it a lot. The art is great too.
I'm not sure about the Dream cost. You have Improved mutation (an upped card) that costs 3 :entropy, and it requires a base creature with at least 1  :underworld cost (unless you use photons, which won't allways be the case). Dream has the potential of giving you a strong creature out of thin air, and can be used at will, not just 6 times tops (Fallen Druid can do that too, but you still need another creature). I don't really know if the possibility to 'miss' and create an ilussion is a good enough reason to make Dream only 2 :entropy. Perhaps it needs a deeper analysis, this is just my feeling.
Question. What happens if you have Hope and you get a light emitting creature illusion? Would the shield count put you in evidence? If so, it'd be OK IMO. Same thing would happen with Empathic Bond, but less obvious maybe.
Another one. Can the random illusion be inmaterial? If so, how can you make it dissapear?

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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539086#msg539086
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2012, 09:21:41 pm »
hmmm, since the theme of an illusion creature here is they don't really exist except to do damage..... Would it be logical for any shield that causes a status or damage to also make an illusion creature disappear?
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539140#msg539140
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2012, 01:08:32 am »
Is that the crocodile eye? I think this card is just perfect. Cost fits, theme fits, element fits, it's great!

If the mutant has Deja Vu, (or is a regular deja vu,) is the copy also an illusion.
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539150#msg539150
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2012, 01:32:47 am »
Hmmm.......

How about this? It does damage like a normal creature and has skills like a normal creature. But if it is moretargeted, every thing that it does will be undone.
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539152#msg539152
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2012, 01:43:27 am »
What is the point of an illusion if all it does is just sit there and the enemy knows it is fake?

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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539160#msg539160
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2012, 02:37:46 am »
Entropy has been in need of a permanent, and I think this is it! It seems well balanced. I would just suggest that the creature look the same to you and your opponent. It should behave like a frozen creature, but without the frozen graphic overlay, and of course the aspect of when being targeted it disappears. It could provoke your opponent to play cards they would not have played otherwise, which is kind of the point of an illusion.

Also, what would happen if the illusion is targeted with fractal, nightmare, etc.?

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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539162#msg539162
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2012, 02:40:25 am »
Also, what would happen if the illusion is targeted with fractal, nightmare, etc.?
It disappears. Check the notes.
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539166#msg539166
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2012, 02:43:18 am »
Entropy has been in need of a permanent, and I think this is it! It seems well balanced. I would just suggest that the creature look the same to you and your opponent. It should behave like a frozen creature, but without the frozen graphic overlay, and of course the aspect of when being targeted it disappears. It could provoke your opponent to play cards they would not have played otherwise, which is kind of the point of an illusion.

Also, what would happen if the illusion is targeted with fractal, nightmare, etc.?
the simple act of targeting an illusion will cause it to disappear. fractal would fissile.
What is the point of an illusion if all it does is just sit there and the enemy knows it is fake?
Not all will be illusions.
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539167#msg539167
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2012, 02:44:00 am »
*death effects

So, the spell is wasted when an illusionary target disappears?

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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539169#msg539169
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2012, 02:49:40 am »
*death effects

So, the spell is wasted when an illusionary target disappears?
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Re: Imagerie | Imagerie https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=43247.msg539174#msg539174
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2012, 03:06:07 am »
Not all will be illusions.
Yes, but any player with their eyes on the board and high quality would be able to see which is which.

 

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