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Can i say some feeling to this game which make me play several weeks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41813.msg518806#msg518806
« on: July 07, 2012, 10:40:05 am »
That is excited when i first play elements in Kong. The cards is abundant, the design of several divided elements energy is unique and clever. It get me happy when i first pass lv3 and the first get rare weapon.

As a newer ,when i know the forum in which various decks designed better posted, i so excited to search in forum and see which deck is  high quanlity & reasonable price for a newer.  And i found the Toxic Shriekers [AI3][non-upgraded][rareless] and Limitless speed FG OTK [Semi-Unupped][Epic] . The Toxic Shriekers deck , which suit for newer, is used to play pvp1 with a 90% winrate after i replace the "momentum" with "pulv" and add a "fog shield".  So i quickly gain some money and upgrade 3 cards to build the  Limitless speed FG OTK deck. Using this deck ,i began farm FG . The process is just that: come in ,see who is the fg , go away or begin battle if it is the 1/3 fg who can be beat.

That is a good time ,but just ended. When i boring the fixed operate process of FG , boring  the always win in pvp1 (I understand the most pvp1 opponent are newer ,so there are no successful joy keeped). So i come in pvp2, then as is known to all, i always lose due to  the shards serial and upped cards of opponent.

So i meet that state: pvp1 is boring ,pvp2 is losing. The only way is to grind shard in arena. But most deck without shard is not suit gold and plat. The unupped deck for bronze I search only found one, and the one have a tragic winrate , after i use it and miss the four or five win streak, i abandon it.

I ask others ,they told me the Splat is the one they always use for arena. I have seen, that is a good deck just i need. but it is not hard for me to upgrade (i can earn money form FG), but the sosa and sod in the deck block me. If i can borrow the sosa and sod to grind the plat and then return back , that would be perfect.

But now only two way I can choose.

1. Slow FG to gain money and waste the hard-earned money to up the dust deck which have 90% winrate only for bronze.
Then gain shard from bronze, and fg again to earn money to up splat. After that ,with splat ,can come into a happy perid ( you can fg fast and you can arena fast via plat not bronze)
But the trouble is you should waste your money for a   transitional deck. That make me no motive to do this.

2. Farm from others who are rich in sosa and sod  and then you dont need upgrade the transitional deck, just to up the splat.
what a good way. But the cruel fact is you hardly get people help you, due to that is a boring work to farm owner. I have get farm from  several people such as hemlt, viz and etc. But now i only have 1 sosa and 1 sod .I undertstand it also need a long time cost to meet and beg poeple who are kindly and infrequent due to the deceasing player number.

If i dont know the second way, i may have a little chance to stick to the first way. Since i know the second way, i have no motive do anything ,just waiting for someone kingly open a farm . The waiting has no interest.  I am tired and no happy get from elements now. I am not good at english ,and always seeing the chat room words to know whether the farm is on is a hard work to my eyes, and be a waste of time.

So my feeling to this game is that  , it has a good begin, a happy future, but a hard barrier between them.  If pvp1 have level matching, If pvp2 can divide shard and noshard level, that will be a happy transitional period for people between newer and elite, and keep their interest always.

So thanks to those kind persons helped me , and bye.
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Re: Can i say some feeling to this game which make me play several weeks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41813.msg518821#msg518821
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2012, 11:04:36 am »
That was...a bot of a difficult read. Let me see if I understand you.

You loved elements. You used the forums to find Toxic shriekers to use against your false god prediction. After awhile, you got bored because predictions were easy, Pvp1 was easy, and there was to big a gap to pvp 2. You need shards for high level arena and have none, and the only bronze deck you found failed. Someone suggested Splat but you have no shards (and would like to "borrow" them? feature request?), and you're stuck between 1. Grinding to afford that deck to grind for shards so you can get plat, and 2. Asking people to put up farms for you. Farming gives you little motivation and grinding bores you. You are tired and bored because noone is putting up farms for you, and so you're bored with elements, and because of your english barrier, you dislike the chat. You feel the beginning and end game of elements are great, but there is too big a barrier from newbie to pro. You request pvp to have you face closer to your level opponents and pvp 2 to have a shards and no shards mode.

In response:
1) Farming is frowned upon here. It's considered begging and unwanted. Earn your cards
2) The "borrow" feature has been suggested, perhaps someone else can fetch the thread, but I dont remember it being very accepted
3)I agree that grinding can be dull. There are tourneys, events, and such here to keep you occupied. And there is a new quest line in the works
4)The arena is best for fighting players close to your level. Maybe if we implement a lobby in the future level matching for duels could be easier.
5) A shards and no shards pvp2 would be nice.
6) The Arena changes daily, this could be why your bronze grinder failed.

Hopefully you will come back to elements and enjoy it, and point 5 has potential, I might make a thread somewhere to suggest it for you in the future. In the mean time, try some of the forum life, keep grinding, and dont worry. Thank you for trying despite the english barrier to tell us your opinions.
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Re: Can i say some feeling to this game which make me play several weeks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41813.msg518825#msg518825
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 11:19:41 am »
That was...a bot of a difficult read. Let me see if I understand you.



Sorry for my poor english.

1  The Toxic Shriekers is a good deck for newer to pvp1 which need norare and noup.      the Limitless speed FG OTK  is the newer deck to FG  which only need 3 up.

2 "borrow" is not a opinion , but a joke to express my temper and hope to shard.

3 i dont "dislike chat" , i like chat ,but dislike always see the words in chat room to know whether a shard farm is set up.

4 arena is not the same level match ,because if i win ,i think it is just a ai ,so no successful joy ; if i lose ,i think not my deck poor ,but the ai hack with more hp more energy .

3 All i need is that :  i want more newer bronze decks,  i have see all post about bronze arena. But the conclusion is that ,only one unupped which have low win rate ,others are all upped. So i hope the elite can post more effective newer deck for bronze that easy to use just like the Toxic Shriekers and Limitless speed FG OTK.

4 newer- pvp1.   elite - pvp2.  how about the middle to do. they just go grind arena.  I dont want grind, i want pvp. but the pvp1 i easy to win because most are newer in it. pvp2 i always lose . So the fact forcing me to grind. 
I dont hate grind ,but i want effective grind , so i need a deck called Splat.  but the Splat contains sosa and sod which i cant get before grind arena.  So it is a cycle.  no shard - no splat - no plat - no shard.   

except these 3 , others you understand well.

thanks for see my words
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Re: Can i say some feeling to this game which make me play several weeks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41813.msg518830#msg518830
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2012, 11:35:21 am »
If anyone can give me a deck that without [shard and up] for bronze ,i will be happy.

I dont want waste my money to up a deck for bronze , i want my money to use up the Splat deck for plat.

Please give me a effective deck. thank you.

IF there are no ,  seems i should up a deck for silver.
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Re: Can i say some feeling to this game which make me play several weeks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41813.msg518836#msg518836
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2012, 11:54:41 am »
No problem.
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Re: Can i say some feeling to this game which make me play several weeks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41813.msg518893#msg518893
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2012, 02:39:32 pm »
No problem.

I have try the most deck.

the result is sad.

Fastest unupped mono AI3 farmer : beat by the aether. when creature be block by the aether shield , no defence of this deck.

regen2k9's Unupped Monodark : beat by rainbow  and also life (which have so many energy), and when the first turn have no pest play , then cant press opponent's energy.

Rotten Flesh : due to no pillar , so it is depend your luck , i lose because the luck, no energy in the first and second turns

Toxic Shriekers ; beat by aether , the aether shield chain is terrible , and this deck only have one deflagration

up are unupped .

below are upped


The Bone Collector : beat by life in silver. 5 battle i meet 3 life, why life is so popular in silver?   life has adrenal and cock and frog which always play quickly.  so the bone wall has no defence.

Mono-Darkness: beat by the fire , which rush me .

others dont want to try , it seems if your deck has no shard , there always has some to beat you in bronze and silver.


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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2012, 03:27:18 pm »
Thanks helmethedd , he help me farm enough  sosa and sod and now i can build the Splat, so nice he is.
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Re: Can i say some feeling to this game which make me play several weeks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41813.msg518905#msg518905
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2012, 03:34:33 pm »
i would say, please don't expect 100% win. My best deck has 2 loses in 100 matches against AI3. Well, there will always be counters. Yes, I do agree with you. I was once shards grinding ...that goes the same with rares. and now in dire need of getting nymphs. These process are dull and lackluster indeed. Be patient. I grind all of that in 6 months. I'll not be around for nearly a month, so, i would gladly provide help afterwards.
Just for curiosity, what decks you used for PvP 2???
I don't usually lose in PvP 2. For advise, PvP 1.....slow decks work, PvP 2 , all are rushing and in competing who's the fastest, lots of people use shield too, slowing others while himself rushing. putting a few permanent controls might work
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2012, 03:59:24 pm »
i would say, please don't expect 100% win. My best deck has 2 loses in 100 matches against AI3. Well, there will always be counters. Yes, I do agree with you. I was once shards grinding ...that goes the same with rares. and now in dire need of getting nymphs. These process are dull and lackluster indeed. Be patient. I grind all of that in 6 months. I'll not be around for nearly a month, so, i would gladly provide help afterwards.
Just for curiosity, what decks you used for PvP 2???
I don't usually lose in PvP 2. For advise, PvP 1.....slow decks work, PvP 2 , all are rushing and in competing who's the fastest, lots of people use shield too, slowing others while himself rushing. putting a few permanent controls might work

Thank you for replying my post. i will happy grind shard now , due to i have farm enough sosa and sod to build Plat. PVP1 i use rainbow rush with the grab. pvp2 not think about.

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Re: Can i say some feeling to this game which make me play several weeks. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=41813.msg519627#msg519627
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2012, 04:25:41 pm »
its not that hard to farm pvp2 Qin, you just have to counter the usual decks that people use

the key cards to counter the most decks on pvp2 are:

psion -> conter vs big shields (wings, dimensional shield, dissipation field etc)
lobotomizer -> conter vs sofo, oty etc etc
twin universe -> they usually grab a creature that grows over time like lava golem or forest spirit

im using this one against pvp2 and got some good results
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give it a try :aether :aether

 

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