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Hyper Guards [Life] [Gravity] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39830.msg494411#msg494411
« on: May 07, 2012, 08:47:26 pm »
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Who said these guys weren't useful? This is just a way of showing these vanilla guards a little love that they usually don't get.

The strategy is pretty obvious, pull out a guard, put mitosis on it, build an army, adrenaline a few of 'em, and feral bond for healing.

This is an AI3 intended deck.
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Re: Hyper Guards [Life] [Gravity] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39830.msg494413#msg494413
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2012, 08:50:50 pm »
i would prefer seeing a variation without mitosis and bonds, a rushier version

but yeah nice use of the guards, 12 dmg critters with good health

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Re: Hyper Guards [Life] [Gravity] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39830.msg494417#msg494417
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 08:57:17 pm »
well, with adrenaline, they are pretty rushy. Maybe just more creatures? Perhaps scorps?
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Re: Hyper Guards [Life] [Gravity] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39830.msg494418#msg494418
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 09:01:11 pm »
maybe, see what other synergies there are with  :gravity :life, im sure there's more to it :)

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Re: Hyper Guards [Life] [Gravity] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39830.msg494429#msg494429
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 09:10:15 pm »
arrrgh, i was toying around with exactly the guard + epi combo >.<

anyway, i really like that combo since it's easy to pull and pretty strong.

here's what i made so far, though it still needs some balancing.

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With TU I don't need to wait for another guard + epi on my hand. One is enough and then I can just copy it.


To your deck:

it looks to me as if you're tight on :life. Since the mercenary only costs 2 :gravity I'd take one out and make the :gravity towers to pends. The Mitosis will give you more guards anyway. As for the bonds... since it's a rush deck maybe SoG is better? Still heals up to 15 which I think takes more time if you use Feral Bonds.

The nice thing imo about this two elements is, that they have lots of variations. As you can see I used SoFo for PC, while I also could have used Unstoppable or GF.
Also Black Holes or an Otyugh can surely be put in a modified variation. Of course all of this would probably need a new quanta balance. Just giving some inputs you might want to try out ^^

Here's a quickly built example of what I mean:

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You can chose how many of each creature you want making it a quite new deck. Since this version is pretty fast I don't really see the need of Otyugh. GF might be better here.
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Re: Hyper Guards [Life] [Gravity] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39830.msg494444#msg494444
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 09:32:44 pm »
@Gandora, lol...just lol

i was messing with that exact same deck, guard+epi+TU xD

since i saw that adrenastaves with TU i have been exploring some combo decks (like the one i posted on the scarab challenge :P) with the same deck structure to see how far it can go

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Re: Hyper Guards [Life] [Gravity] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39830.msg494448#msg494448
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2012, 09:36:20 pm »
@Gandora, lol...just lol

i was messing with that exact same deck, guard+epi+TU xD

since i saw that adrenastaves with TU i have been exploring some combo decks (like the one i posted on the scarab challenge :P) with the same deck structure to see how far it can go

haha for real? xD great minds think alike, don't they? ;)
besides, you may not believe it but i was also fascinated of that stave deck using TU ^^

I posted one with steam machines, it's called Brave Twin Machine ^^

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Re: Hyper Guards [Life] [Gravity] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39830.msg494449#msg494449
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2012, 09:37:07 pm »
I know the whole point of this deck was to make use of graviton guard, but the deck is almost strictly superior by making it monolife and using frogs, whether unupped (for better epi synergy) or upped.  The quanta balance is obviously better in a mono, and the -2 hp a frog has doesn't matter most of the time.  What about using elite chargers instead of the graviton guards?  You'd have to play around with the quanta balance, since it would need more gravity, but epinephrined chargers might be effective.  If nothing else, it would have a way better win percentage against the ai3 with dimshields.

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Re: Hyper Guards [Life] [Gravity] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39830.msg494868#msg494868
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2012, 01:41:25 pm »
i really like that deck, being vanillas means that they're immune to lobo (except for mitosis) and RT (except adren'). maybe take out one mitosis to throw in a thorn shield? the 1DR and the CC could be useful, if only to stall the first few turns to set up.

this gives me an idea based on your combo, i'll keep you all posted  :P
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