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Orochi | Orochi [Legacy - Armory] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491785#msg491785
« on: May 03, 2012, 02:36:35 am »
NAME:
Orochi
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
8 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
12 | 8
TEXT:
0 : Appease
Sacrifice target creature.  If no creature is sacrificed, Orochi attacks you instead.
NAME:
Orochi
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
7 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
12 | 8
TEXT:
0 : Appease
Sacrifice target creature.  If no creature is sacrificed, Orochi attacks you instead.

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NOTES:
Yamata no Orochi; The Eight Headed Serpent.

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Yamata no Orochi legends are originally recorded in two ancient texts about Japanese mythology and history. The ca. 680 AD Kojiki transcribes this dragon name as 八岐遠呂智 and ca. 720 AD Nihongi writes it as 八岐大蛇. In both versions of the Orochi myth, Susanoo or Susa-no-Ō is expelled from Heaven for tricking his sister Amaterasu the sun-goddess.

After expulsion from Heaven, Susanoo encounters two "Earthly Deities" (國神, kunitsukami) near the head of the Hi River (簸川), now called the Hii River (ja:斐伊川), in Izumo Province. They are weeping because they were forced to give the Orochi one of their daughters every year for seven years.

This is in :earth for a reason obvious to those of us who know lick of Japanese.  The kanji for "Yamata" are the ones meaning "eight" and "branch," referring to his eight heads.  What does this have to do with :earth ?  Nothing much.  But considering it's size and a rather neutral nature, it fit into :earth  as I see it, as I'd like to maintain a thematic connection with its origin.

So, I've simply stripped it to having to sacrifice a creature, much like the deities' sacrifices to Yamato no Orochi, which I assumed was to maintain peace.

Your shields affect Orochi if it attacks you.

Now, essentially an :earth beatstick.  With death effects.  I wonder how this will work out...  Note there is always balancing to be done.

I'm considering dropping the cost and making Orochi affected by both sides.
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Re: Orochi | Orochi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491791#msg491791
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 02:44:55 am »
That sounds awesome! I hope you only have to do that one turn, right?
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Re: Orochi | Orochi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491794#msg491794
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 02:47:03 am »
Oh, you have to take damage from it the first turn.  And you have to sacrifice every turn.

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Re: Orochi | Orochi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491795#msg491795
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 02:48:14 am »
Oh, you have to take damage from it the first turn.  And you have to sacrifice every turn.

that sounds dangerous. go mitosis! =p
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Re: Orochi | Orochi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491800#msg491800
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 02:53:53 am »
Interesting. I'll assume the sacrificed creature has to be your own?
Is the ability active or passive? What happens if this creature is frozen/delayed?
Antimatter could have some fun with this.

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Re: Orochi | Orochi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491802#msg491802
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 02:55:49 am »
Yes, I was hoping Sacrifice implied it was your own creature.

And I wasn't thinking about stretching the thematics to that extent.  Although it may be an idea for another card...

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Re: Orochi | Orochi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491805#msg491805
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 02:57:18 am »
It is passive.

Frozen and Delayed means it can't attack, and, in turn, means it doesn't matter if you sacrifice a creature.

Thinking about it now, there may be issues with Antimatter.  Might make Appease mandatory.  Nah, 16 | 11 quanta for 12 healing is less than that of 4 | 3 Sancs.

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Re: Orochi | Orochi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491817#msg491817
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 03:04:33 am »
Giving this liquid shadow also means that you don't have to sacrifice things anymore! (at the expense of a very powerful attacker dealing damage)

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Re: Orochi | Orochi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491818#msg491818
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 03:05:39 am »
No, it'd only mean you'd lose the ability to Appease Orochi.  But it would make it a useless hitter as it is healing you for the damage it is hitting you with.

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Re: Orochi | Orochi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491861#msg491861
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2012, 04:36:10 am »
No, it'd only mean you'd lose the ability to Appease Orochi.  But it would make it a useless hitter as it is healing you for the damage it is hitting you with.

If it attacked you, wouldn't it heal the opponent?
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Re: Orochi | Orochi https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39561.msg491864#msg491864
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2012, 04:43:52 am »
No, because Vampire heals the damage dealt to the owner.  It's the equivalent of using a Drain Life | Siphon Life on yourself.

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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2012, 04:50:51 am »
No, because Vampire heals the damage dealt to the owner.  It's the equivalent of using a Drain Life | Siphon Life on yourself.
Sorta off topic, but I always wondered. If you cast drain life on yourself with 1hp, what happens?

 

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