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Brave queens [1.31][Duo] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487163#msg487163
« on: April 25, 2012, 11:05:19 am »
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due to the buff FFQ got from 1.31 this deck seems much more viable and it is fast!

Brave Queens V2 (EDIT: removed V1 because V2 is simply better)

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works very well and its fast as hell! i only recomend having 2 epi'd damsels to power the FFQ, the rest of the epis should be used on the queens to have a 12 attack critter that can go up to 20 damage using SoFr! can win in 5 turns, can be somewhat CC resistant (its even nom resistant!) and able to avoid shields with little effort

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using Xeno's game simulator tool

Wins: 1511  (games: 2000)
Winrate: 75.55 %
Average TTW: 7.706154864328259
EMs: 53
EM rate: 3.5076108537392456 %

because i'm not sure how the AI plays the deck, that may lower its win rate slightly and its ttw
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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487180#msg487180
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 11:50:19 am »
The synergy between SoB and SoFre is awesome, especially also with creature spammer. Like it :D
I wonder if the same can be done with pharaoh? Scarabs are also flying IIRC.
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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487181#msg487181
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 11:51:33 am »
The synergy between SoB and SoFre is awesome, especially also with creature spammer. Like it :D
I wonder if the same can be done with pharaoh? Scarabs are also flying IIRC.

:fire :time duo maybe? i like how that sounds :P

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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487184#msg487184
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 12:02:24 pm »
A mono, I'd say.
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The 2 time pends are for the lulz occasional noms, and SoB makes less SoR viable.

(Side note, this is a beta deck too, consider that pharaoh got a buff...)
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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487188#msg487188
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2012, 12:22:18 pm »
A mono, I'd say.
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The 2 time pends are for the lulz occasional noms, and SoB makes less SoR viable.

(Side note, this is a beta deck too, consider that pharaoh got a buff...)

although this could also work pretty well in 1.30 too :D i like it seems pretty fast too

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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487206#msg487206
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2012, 01:29:53 pm »
Since Poker Alho asked about my thoughts on this (Math's Pharaoh deck), i'll give it a shot.

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10 Towers and 2 Pends are somewhat enough. You only really need one Pharaoh on field. It might be short on :gravity to nom creature, especially initial swarm (before you have Pharaoh on field, opponent will have a few, and you'll need those to be eaten, fast). Then again, that's what the SoRs are for, but still...

SoBe will definitely speed up the deck, and clog opponent's hand. Because once you have enough Scarab, only quint can protect opponent's creature. In one way, it's good, but considering that you have to get your opponent's hand fairly empty for SoBe to be effective, it's only good for the beginning of the game. Or against AI, as they will still put the creature, only to be nommed the next turn.

SoFr will boost your Scarab's attack to 5 and bypass shields. Good against Thorn Carapace, the bane of this deck (i lost a game due to this shield too many times), and practically almost doubles your attack power (3 to 5).

TL;DR: it's a good deck, but will definitely be better to be used against AI who doesn't hold back creatures.
Also, because it's a different enough deck, you can make a new thread about this deck or bring it to the Engineer's workshop.

EDIT: and for Poker's V2 deck:

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Yep, the SoFrs are really useful, and the SoBe could be more effective in this deck. Honestly, it's a good deck already.
Just one suggestion: try to fit in a few Bolts there for a surprise. Just when your opponent think he got a card advantage too... SURPRISE!
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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487207#msg487207
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2012, 01:38:07 pm »
Since Poker Alho asked about my thoughts on this (Math's Pharaoh deck), i'll give it a shot.

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10 Towers and 2 Pends are somewhat enough. You only really need one Pharaoh on field. It might be short on :gravity to nom creature, especially initial swarm (before you have Pharaoh on field, opponent will have a few, and you'll need those to be eaten, fast). Then again, that's what the SoRs are for, but still...

SoBe will definitely speed up the deck, and clog opponent's hand. Because once you have enough Scarab, only quint can protect opponent's creature. In one way, it's good, but considering that you have to get your opponent's hand fairly empty for SoBe to be effective, it's only good for the beginning of the game. Or against AI, as they will still put the creature, only to be nommed the next turn.

SoFr will boost your Scarab's attack to 5 and bypass shields. Good against Thorn Carapace, the bane of this deck (i lost a game due to this shield too many times), and practically almost doubles your attack power (3 to 5).

TL;DR: it's a good deck, but will definitely be better to be used against AI who doesn't hold back creatures.
Also, because it's a different enough deck, you can make a new thread about this deck or bring it to the Engineer's workshop.

Since I'm so passionate about anything related to pharaohs/mummies/scarabs, think I'll post it there as well... it doesn't really deserve a thread, though.
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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487855#msg487855
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 04:58:53 pm »
You always win when you bet on Poker ;)

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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487899#msg487899
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2012, 06:10:22 pm »
You always win when you bet on Poker ;)

Nice decks mate! I'm in love with the second one :D

i quickly dropped out on the first version because the second one seems to be actually better and way more fun xD i may post some stats to see fast it can be

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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487917#msg487917
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2012, 06:47:59 pm »
You always win when you bet on Poker ;)

Nice decks mate! I'm in love with the second one :D

i quickly dropped out on the first version because the second one seems to be actually better and way more fun xD i may post some stats to see fast it can be

besides, your deck reminded of my old Explode this Damsels, so I made some changes for 1.30. You can tell me if you like it :)
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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg487964#msg487964
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 08:48:30 pm »
for the phaoroah deck why not precogs instead of SoB?
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Re: Brave queens [1.31] https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39162.msg488135#msg488135
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2012, 12:58:08 am »
3 cards drawn > 1 card drawn

In terms of quanta, though, it might be better...

 

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