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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg496290#msg496290
« Reply #372 on: May 10, 2012, 04:50:05 pm »
I understand that more versatility equals more advantage, but what's with "significant advantage" being constantly thrown around?  That's the one problem I have with the entire argument.  The buffed nymphs have, up until now, always been on the (very) weak side, so nobody can draw on any meaningful past experiences for support.  The closest you can come to is drawing on the experience from purple/amber nymphs, since these buffs appear to try and get all nymphs on a similar playing level to those two.  Yet, I don't recall any similar argument ever popping up for those two.

The way I see it, if the nymphs are OP, then the "significant advantage" would be fairly obvious.  If they aren't, then I don't see the "significant advantage," and I ask for an explanation from those who think otherwise.

Having purple nymphs for monoentropy is actually quite good in some restricted PvP formats. Ask 10 men he's used them quite a few times.

EDIT: Not to mention Time nymphs in War. Blue Nymphs with this buff are a very strong asset for Team Air, Light Nymphs will see much much more use, not to mention Auburns...
I'm not saying this is bad, just that it is a real advantage.
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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg496328#msg496328
« Reply #373 on: May 10, 2012, 06:04:45 pm »
Here, maybe this will get at the issue better:

"The buffed nymphs give an real advantage, that's obvious. Versatility is better than no versatility."

"However, I don't think the buffed nymphs give a significant advantage."

Please explain why I'm wrong about the latter.  If it supposed to be obvious, I don't see it.  If a large majority of people find it obvious, then the problem is me; everyone can just move on and discuss whatever.  Based on the responses within this thread, however, that doesn't seem to be the case.

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg496511#msg496511
« Reply #374 on: May 11, 2012, 01:19:09 am »
Honestly, some of those nymphs deserved the buff, like the Grey one. Maybe not that much, but it needed one.

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg496707#msg496707
« Reply #375 on: May 11, 2012, 07:48:37 am »
Thank you for answering my questions, Jenkar. :3

So, no love for the Amber/ Gravity Nymphs? D;

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg496718#msg496718
« Reply #376 on: May 11, 2012, 08:29:07 am »
Thank you for answering my questions, Jenkar. :3

So, no love for the Amber/ Gravity Nymphs? D;
It's already very good.
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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg496794#msg496794
« Reply #377 on: May 11, 2012, 12:51:38 pm »
Thank you for answering my questions, Jenkar. :3

So, no love for the Amber/ Gravity Nymphs? D;

It's the best one already :)  Of the ones I own, I use the gravity and entropy ones the most by far, and they have low att/def values.

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg497698#msg497698
« Reply #378 on: May 13, 2012, 04:24:09 pm »
the most powerfull nimphs are defenetly  :entropy :gravity and :air
the rest deserve the buff as for this ones... i'm not shure.
but can't say it is terrible or anything like that cause nimphs are suposed to be ultrarares for some reason...
and they will not be used many times.

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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg497847#msg497847
« Reply #379 on: May 13, 2012, 10:15:50 pm »
1.31 is about to go live. If you know something terrible about this version say it now or forever hold your peace.

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Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg497850#msg497850
« Reply #380 on: May 13, 2012, 10:24:01 pm »
Already? It's a smaller patch than usual, though I prefer many small patches over one large one. Guess I'll have to stop procrastinating and update the Deck Image Builder ...
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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg497851#msg497851
« Reply #381 on: May 13, 2012, 10:26:10 pm »
Small, more frequent patches ftw.

Edit: now online.
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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg497857#msg497857
« Reply #382 on: May 13, 2012, 10:36:18 pm »
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Re: Elements 1.31 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=39146.msg497860#msg497860
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