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Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg480059#msg480059
« on: April 13, 2012, 02:38:10 am »
NAME:
Soul Extraction
ELEMENT:
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COST:
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TYPE:
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ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Kill target friendly creature. Trigger 1 additional death effect and gain :death :death :death :death
NAME:
Soul Extraction
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
0
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Kill target friendly creature. Trigger 2 additional death effect and gain :death :death :death :death

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Currently, a lot of death-factories involves the entropy cat or Immo-Phoenix Combo. This undoubtedly limits the use of death elements as death itself cannot generate enough death power to fuel itself.

The concept of Soul Extraction is based on Immolation, and aims to give Death more mono-power.

Note that Soul Extraction also works on Skeletons.
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg480063#msg480063
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2012, 02:44:05 am »
This + Soul Catcher = super free bunch of quanta.
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg480066#msg480066
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2012, 02:47:10 am »
Not sure on how balanced this is. Closest card I can compare this to is immolation|cremation.
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg480092#msg480092
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2012, 03:53:56 am »
Quote from: Rutarete on April 13, 2012, 02:44:05 am
This + Soul Catcher = super free bunch of quanta.
Still weaker than Immolation | Cremation, and the Soul Catcher Combo also loses card advantage compared with Immolation | Cremation

But the additional death effects could help a lot in late game if you have set up everything but you don't have a cat.
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg480453#msg480453
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2012, 04:42:42 pm »
Will the extra death effect trigger boneyard if a skeleton is targeted?
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg480675#msg480675
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2012, 01:39:15 am »
Quote from: OdinVanguard on April 13, 2012, 04:42:42 pm
Will the extra death effect trigger boneyard if a skeleton is targeted?
The death of skeleton will not. But the additional death effect will.
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg481272#msg481272
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2012, 01:06:31 am »
Seems a bit powerful. Make it cost 1 quanta of any element like Animate Weapon.
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg481283#msg481283
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2012, 01:15:10 am »
Quote from: Arum on April 15, 2012, 01:06:31 am
Seems a bit powerful. Make it cost 1 quanta of any element like Animate Weapon.

If it didn't have the extra death effects, I'd disagree.  But considering what :death has in it's arsenal, I'd actually go for at least 2~3 for the unupped version instead of 0~1.
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg481291#msg481291
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 01:23:27 am »
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Quote from: Arum on April 15, 2012, 01:06:31 am
Seems a bit powerful. Make it cost 1 quanta of any element like Animate Weapon.

If it didn't have the extra death effects, I'd disagree.  But considering what :death has in it's arsenal, I'd actually go for at least 2~3 for the unupped version instead of 0~1.
I don't understand, why is this too powerful, when compared with Immolation | Cremation ?
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg481294#msg481294
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2012, 01:27:00 am »
Quote from: waterzx on April 15, 2012, 01:23:27 am
Quote from: Drake_XIV on April 15, 2012, 01:15:10 am
Quote from: Arum on April 15, 2012, 01:06:31 am
Seems a bit powerful. Make it cost 1 quanta of any element like Animate Weapon.

If it didn't have the extra death effects, I'd disagree.  But considering what :death has in it's arsenal, I'd actually go for at least 2~3 for the unupped version instead of 0~1.
I don't understand, why is this too powerful, when compared with Immolation | Cremation ?
Assuming because it's effectiveness raises almost exponentially with soul catchers out. 1 soul catcher + 1 photon + 1 soul extraction = instant dragon.
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg481296#msg481296
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2012, 01:28:10 am »
Quote from: waterzx on April 15, 2012, 01:23:27 am
Quote from: Drake_XIV on April 15, 2012, 01:15:10 am
Quote from: Arum on April 15, 2012, 01:06:31 am
Seems a bit powerful. Make it cost 1 quanta of any element like Animate Weapon.

If it didn't have the extra death effects, I'd disagree.  But considering what :death has in it's arsenal, I'd actually go for at least 2~3 for the unupped version instead of 0~1.
I don't understand, why is this too powerful, when compared with Immolation | Cremation ?
Because of the additional death effects.  With Soul Catchers, you get a minimum of 8 :death .  That already puts it ahead of :fire in the Mono.  Also, there is also Boneyards and Condors to consider.  That means increased power.  And finally, Bone Wall.  The unupped generates 4 tokens already, which is acceptable, but the upgraded gets 6 additional tokens.  That's quite a lot of defense in my opinion, considering you're not facing a Fractal rush or something.

And as furballdn said, even Immolation|Cremation can't get an Instant Dragon in one turn with only 3 cards.
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Re: Soul Extraction | Soul Extraction https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=38555.msg481298#msg481298
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2012, 01:30:30 am »
Quote from: furballdn on April 15, 2012, 01:27:00 am
Assuming because it's effectiveness raises almost exponentially with soul catchers out. 1 soul catcher + 1 photon + 1 soul extraction = instant dragon.
Hmm....I start to understand now. Soul Catcher....you evil monster.

Maybe I should lower the  :death quanta production to 2, or even 0 ? I don't want to add a cost to this card, but reducing the effectiveness may work.

I'd make a change to it later, now wait for more comments.
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