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Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg469739#msg469739
« on: March 11, 2012, 04:40:30 pm »
NAME:
Genesis of Life
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
0
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Generate :life each time a creature is put into play
NAME:
Genesis of Life
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
0
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Generate :life each time a creature is put into play
Gain :life when you play this card
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1092515
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Previously I had misread the benefits of the trials which zanz had intended to put into the game (had just woken up, oh well, thought it was greatly increasing the power of the marks).  In any event, the result was survive/thrive (in the spoiler below), which wasn't very useful in light of what the power from the trials actually are.

So I shifted things around a little bit, and decided I could still use this card art for something that may actually be useful- generating quanta (this could potentially a series for each element, Genesis of Earth, Fire, etc, but I figured it made most sense of Life at the moment).  And also there is the potential for 3 sets- gaining quanta from permanents, from creatures, or spells.  And potential for other effects such as healing, purify or etc.  But for now I think creatures are the way to go, at least initially.  Feel free to give me feedback on my ideas listed here.
SERIES:
NAME:
Survive
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Increase the effectiveness of your mark by 10% for each creature you have in play
NAME:
Thrive
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Increase the effectiveness of your mark by 10% for each creature you have in play
ART:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1092515
IDEA:
moomoose
NOTES:
With the trial recently announced, I started thinking that this could potentially be a new avenue for cards, increasing the power of your mark in some way, shape or form.  Life's seemed rather obvious, base it on the number of creatures you have.  Alternatively it could be a set amount or percent without involving creatures.

The effectiveness can be used towards quanta generation, healing, or whatever else the trial rewards you with after completion.

The cost may be high initially, but we will just have to see what comes out of the trial.
SERIES:
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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470019#msg470019
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2012, 07:24:40 am »
I love it. Looooove. <3 alternate quanta engines; a perfect counterpoint to Soul Catcher and it isn't a creature like Earth and Air's alternate quanta generators so you don't get the crazy Adrenaline synergy

Why is it a spell rather than a permanent though? Also I think that it would be better worded as "each time a creature enters the field" unless there is a precedent. As it stands it's somewhat ambiguous to whether it includes spawning. Maybe buff it to 2  :life also. Certainly more powerful than Soul Catcher but SC isn't really isn't the best card itself so I don't think this would be OP.

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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470020#msg470020
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2012, 07:33:26 am »
Yes this should be a permanent not a spell !
Anyway I really like the idea, though it may be little OP in the beginning of the game. maybe make the cost 1/0 instead of 0/-1. A very intesting idea anyway.
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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470053#msg470053
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2012, 12:07:08 pm »
was intended to be a perm, neglected to change the drop box after working on a previous card
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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470057#msg470057
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2012, 12:27:30 pm »
Is  :life generated only by actively playing creatures or also by skills like mitosis, PU, Pharao creating scarabs, Fire Queen creating Fireflies, ... ?
I think it should be the second option.

I like it a lot and it fits perfectly into the life theme.

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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470062#msg470062
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2012, 12:44:07 pm »
put into play in any fashion, it was not stated to be only "when played from hand"
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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470081#msg470081
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2012, 02:51:48 pm »
thanks, that also was my understanding. I wanted it to be confirmed.

Besides the mentioned creature skills I see high synergies with aflatoxin and boneyard.

It is not stackable, right?

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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470093#msg470093
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2012, 03:33:58 pm »
it does stack, like pillars/pends, and would be a target for EQ as such.
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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470140#msg470140
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2012, 06:51:01 pm »
Random suggestions for other elements:

fire: each time your creatures succesfully attack
Earth: Each time a permanent is played
water: Each time a spell is used

less thought out:
Time: each time a card is drawn. (<- probably done already)
Aether: each time a creature fails to deal damage to you.

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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470154#msg470154
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2012, 07:37:41 pm »
i was thinking more along the lines of each element having a genesis card, based on creatures, and then each element having one for permanents, and one for spells, but under a name other than genesis which seems to fit creatures. but yes, there are definitely other ways to invoke the quanta generation based  on event x y or z
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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470159#msg470159
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2012, 08:05:58 pm »
Maybe buff it to 2  :life also.
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Re: Genesis of Life | Genesis of Life https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37382.msg470308#msg470308
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2012, 04:32:18 am »
Oh lol wait a sec. Always gotta account for Fractal.

Hm on that note does this include enemy creatures? Maybe another day traitors type deck could be made.

 

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