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« on: February 28, 2012, 10:48:35 pm »
NAME:
Wind Guardian
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
8 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 3
TEXT:
:air :air : Target card is  covered in a Whirlwind.  Cards that target Whirlwinds are randomly redirected.
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Tempest Guardian
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
6 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 3
TEXT:
:air :air : Target card is  covered in a Whirlwind.  Cards that target Whirlwinds are randomly redirected.
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NOTES:
Cards that are covered in a Whirlwind will have a small icon or overlay indicating the effect. Card that target a Whirlwind have their effect randomly redirected to any valid targets on the field. This random targeting will cycle between all the cards the card could target, so you can't have an Eternity target a Whirlwind creature in hopes of rewinding a permanent instead, or have a Pulverizer target a Whirlwinded permanent to kill a creature.
Has Airborne.
SERIES:
NAME:
Sky Guardian
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
8 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 3
TEXT:
:air :air : Target card is  covered in a Whirlwind.  Whirlwinds deal 3 damage to sources that affect them.
NAME:
Sky Guardian
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
6 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 3
TEXT:
:air :air : Target card is  covered in a Whirlwind.  Whirlwinds deal 3 damage to sources that affect them.
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NOTES:
Cards that are covered in a Whirlwind will have a small icon or overlay indicating the effect. Creatures that target a Whirlwind take 3 damage. Weapons, Shields, Permanents, and Spells that affect the Whirlwind covered card result in the corresponding player taking 3 damage.
Has Airborne.
SERIES:
NAME:
Sky Guardian
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
8 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 3
TEXT:
:air :air : Target card is  covered in a Whirlwind. Enemies that target Whirlwinds take 3 damage.
NAME:
Sky Guardian
ELEMENT:
Air
COST:
6 :air
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 3
TEXT:
:air :air : Target card is  covered in a Whirlwind. Enemies that target Whirlwinds take 3 damage.
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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg465658#msg465658
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 10:54:15 pm »
The mechanics feel much more like :fire Fire in all honesty, like some explosive going off due to targeting. You could, of course consider it like Unstable Gas, but even Unstable Gas is a card that summons particular gases such that the input of :fire Fire can explode them.

Might as well have this creature protect through some sort of explosions, a trap of fire. It would then make more sense and would probably be a more deserving new card to :fire Fire's arsenal than even Seraph.
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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg465665#msg465665
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 11:18:30 pm »
The mechanics feel much more like :fire Fire in all honesty, like some explosive going off due to targeting. You could, of course consider it like Unstable Gas, but even Unstable Gas is a card that summons particular gases such that the input of :fire Fire can explode them.

Might as well have this creature protect through some sort of explosions, a trap of fire. It would then make more sense and would probably be a more deserving new card to :fire Fire's arsenal than even Seraph.
An explosive trap would probably also disable itself after it was triggered , and a trap in general seems more likely to conceal itself ( :darkness ).  My take Sky Guardian's theme is creates a windstorm around the target that the opponent that he has the option to go through or ignore.

Air can use the wind or other aerial effects as a method of disorientation or damage (Fog Shields are harnessed to intentionally disorient the enemy, Thunderstorms are directed to damage a certain area.). Sky Guardian expands upon this effect by harnessing the wind around it to create a force of 'protection' vs. opponents.

I appreciate the feedback though. Added a poll for the card's theme.

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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg465671#msg465671
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2012, 11:41:03 pm »
Even if they are covered in a Whirlwind, will the effects of the spell/ability still go through?

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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg465672#msg465672
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2012, 11:42:09 pm »
Even if they are covered in a Whirlwind, will the effects of the spell/ability still go through?
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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg465682#msg465682
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 12:03:51 am »
I like the art recoloring, as well as the theme.

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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg465685#msg465685
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 12:06:29 am »
I think it fits the :air:light , and :fire themes best since it is essentially acting as an avenging guardian (like guardian angel, only more angry).
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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg465686#msg465686
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 12:14:21 am »
I like the art recoloring, as well as the theme.
Thanks!
So the whirlwind last indefinitely?
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I think it fits the  :light theme best since it is essentially acting as a guardian (like guardian angel).
I considered this too, but IMHO it doesn't relate as well to the damage dealing ability for this card (Why would a windstorm be considered :light ?) It is a winged humanoid but IMO the image feels more wind-themed than angelic ATM.

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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg465691#msg465691
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 12:41:42 am »
lol, was about to post a similar card that i made last night, but it looks like you beat me to the punch.  mine was :aether main :darkness skill, but mostly the same other than that.
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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg465694#msg465694
« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2012, 12:56:13 am »
Does a bolt spell count each bolt?
Does this count as 'spell' damage? I.E, would reflective or emerald shield reflect this?
Does the effect take place if the creature still dies, like with otyugh's devour?
What if a creature is immortal and uses a skill on a creature protected by whirlwind?

Does Mass CC or spells like SoP/Sky Blitz trigger the effect?
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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg465727#msg465727
« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2012, 01:49:45 am »
Does a bolt spell count each bolt? No.
Does this count as 'spell' damage? I.E, would reflective or emerald shield reflect this? Yes.
Does the effect take place if the creature still dies, like with otyugh's devour? Yes.
What if a creature is immortal and uses a skill on a creature protected by whirlwind? No damage is given. Immaterial weapons will not protect the player in the same way though - players still take damage even with PA'd weapons.

Does Mass CC or spells like SoP/Sky Blitz trigger the effect? At the moment, no. You have to actually target the card.

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Re: Sky Guardian | Sky Guardian https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=37120.msg467084#msg467084
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2012, 04:41:07 am »
Poll seems to show a large favoring for Air. As such, this card will remain Air and be submitted to Crucible. I'm still open to other opinions though. (Poll is also still open)

 

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