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Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445004#msg445004
« on: January 04, 2012, 01:33:09 am »
NAME:
Fungus Monster
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
3 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 4
TEXT:
Each turn :life is generated.
:life :life : Generate a fungus.
NAME:
Elite Fungus Monster
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
4 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 4
TEXT:
Each turn :life is generated.
:life :life : Generate an elite fungus.
ART:
Astrid
IDEA:
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NOTES:
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SERIES:
NAME:
Fungus
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 1
TEXT:
Attach:
Sacrifice Fungus to give target
fungus monster +1/+1
NAME:
Elite Fungus
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
2 :life
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 1
TEXT:
Attach:
Sacrifice Fungus to give target
elite fungus monster +2/+2
ART:
Astrid
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Fungus and Elite Fungus are not available in the Bazaar. You can't put them in your deck. They can only be generated by Fungus Monster and Elite Fungus Monster, or targeted by reverse time, fractal, or nightmare.
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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445005#msg445005
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 01:36:17 am »
Spore counters! MtG all over again.

That's quite a high ability cost. I'd lower it to 2.
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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445016#msg445016
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2012, 01:45:23 am »
Seems like an interesting creature, on the one hand it could be compared to firefly queen or pharaoh in that it is generating a daughter creature and creating a large swarm. but unlike those cards, it also seems to be a sort of power increasing creature akin to a golem or forest spirit, but mono element. Capable of remaining as separate creatures, or merging into a single powerful mass.

Honestly I'm not entirely sure what sort of power I would say it has, but it might be a tad UP due to the cost of the ability, as Rutarete said, perhaps change it to  :life :life instead of  :life :life :life.



Actually, due to the fungus creature generating life quanta, leave the ability cost as it is. tis the equvilent of having it at  :life :life anyway, because are you going to WANT to not create another creature? you can't even point out creature limits as an issue with that since you can just merge one into the whole to make room.


Which brings up a thought, this is rather powerful against CC cards like antimatter and liquid shadow, as in the former case you can just merge enough of the creatures into the single creature that the antimatter is negated, and in the latter case, give it more health to combat the poison. keeping them seperate for that purpose brings up a weakness to fire storm and thunderstorm, but most wouldn't have either of the first two and also have the latter two, in short the card can actually adapt to what sort of CC your opponent has. Grow it a bit so that a lightning bolt won't destroy the monster in one hit, and leave a few out to counteract antimatter, poison and the like.

Despite the turn delay on the growth, it's actually not that far behind creatures such as lava golem and forest spirit if you want to simply grow one large creature, as you can make a new one on the same turn as you merge an old one back into it. it's just a bit behind. The fact that it is mono color is also  plus.


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Overall, while there may be a kneejerk reaction to call it UP, I think it may actually be fairly balanced or even OP due to its versatility and mono color. leaning more towards the balanced though

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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445018#msg445018
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2012, 01:47:31 am »
Compare this with growth. +1|+1 in 2 turns and 3 quanta is much worse than +2|+2 for 1 quanta albeit of a different type. IMO, 2 cost for the skill is much better.

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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445019#msg445019
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2012, 01:51:40 am »
heh. Seems UP. You're spawning a fungus for essentially 2 :life, but the fungus only has 1|2 atk. Essentially, it's a slower growth creature that seems to be sort of like a life version of fire spirit. The high cost of fungus is also odd. Why does it cost 3 :life? Only makes it a lot more troublesome when it's RT'd.

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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445044#msg445044
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2012, 02:32:23 am »
I really like this idea. What it lacks in the Golems speed and cost effeciancy it has in survivability and adaptability.

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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445046#msg445046
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2012, 02:34:53 am »
updated; changed ability cost to 2 as requested

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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445053#msg445053
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2012, 02:59:51 am »
First glance I like it, as it is a spawner and a small grow effect when you reach 23 of these critters, which is something Life could use the versatility for.
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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445069#msg445069
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2012, 03:40:23 am »
the only thing im worried about is how this card might be OP if paired with fractal. Fractal an elite fungus, oh god...However, since you cant use the ability right away, you could always pull out a thunderstorm or rain of fire, or just kill the fungus monster to make the fungus useless. put in your thoughts

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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445071#msg445071
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2012, 03:41:51 am »
the only thing im worried about is how this card might be OP if paired with fractal. Fractal an elite fungus, oh god...However, since you cant use the ability right away, you could always pull out a thunderstorm or rain of fire, or just kill the fungus monster to make the fungus useless. put in your thoughts
How...is that OP at all? You're paying 2 :life for only a 2|1 creature whose ability is to destroy itself (-2 total attack), and then add 2 attack onto another creature (+2 total attack)? That's no net gain at all. Fractalling frogs would be much better than fractalling fungi.

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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445080#msg445080
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2012, 03:56:26 am »
kk. im always scared about cards being OP because a LOT of my old card ideas were considered "OP"

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Re: Fungus Monster | Elite Fungus Monster https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35324.msg445308#msg445308
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2012, 06:20:50 pm »
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