Card Balancing: Community Based Project

[Rutarete]

Are we supposed to be able to see the poll results from the upped Skeleton poll?

[RavingRabbid]

Are we supposed to be able to see the poll results from the upped Skeleton poll?

Nope. Blame that I edited the poll and things went kaboom.

[furballdn]

Skeleton is a pretty bad card unupped, being basically a 1 costing photon. The good thing is that it turns into a random creature when RT'd, making it a basically cheaper fate egg. Upped, it's average, not really bad, and not really good either. 1 for 2|2 isn't that terrible and you also have it's unique ability as well.

[Jenkar]

Skeleton should not exist imo.

[RavingRabbid]

First results are up:

As they are, community says that:


The results to pass to next phase is (70% - 40%). Only the extreme with most results is shown.

Nova is fine (64 % - 16 %)
Supernova must be nerfed (77 % - 36 %) There's already a well kept thread for it, it's a bit out of date (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10216.0.html)
Shard of Sacrifice (-) must be nerfed (70 %  - 54 %). There is a thread for it, but it doesn't have a very good op.
Shard of Sacrifice (+) must be nerfed (85 %  - 65 %). There is a thread for it, but it doesn't have a very good op.

Saved screenshots. (Anyone knows where the unupped Skeleton one is?)

[RootRanger]

So, 36% of the forum thinks Nova is average or worse and 23% of the forum thinks Supernova is average or worse? I have a feeling inexperienced players are voting without reading through the posts.

Also, sometimes "Better than average" cards should still not be nerfed because they are beneficial to the metagame. for example, RT is definitely above average but is important as a counter to Nova and Supernova. Fractal, for example, is important as a counter to Firestall that is also useful against other common decks.

[The_Mormegil]

So, 36% of the forum thinks Nova is average or worse and 23% of the forum thinks Supernova is average or worse? I have a feeling inexperienced players are voting without reading through the posts.

Also, sometimes "Better than average" cards should still not be nerfed because they are beneficial to the metagame. for example, RT is definitely above average but is important as a counter to Nova and Supernova. Fractal, for example, is important as a counter to Firestall that is also useful against other common decks.

Agreed. Bonewall is definitely better than average, but I still voted for average because it is a very good card, and its presence hinders many rush decks to simply run rampart. It's a nice card and should be kept as is.