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Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg439914#msg439914
« on: December 18, 2011, 02:05:47 am »
NAME:
Angler
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
4 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 2
TEXT:
When underwater, becomes cloaked and gains skill "Lure".
:light : Lure:  Target creature is brought to edge of the field.
NAME:
Deep Sea Angler
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
6 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
7 | 2
TEXT:
When underwater, becomes cloaked and gains skill "Lure".
:light : Lure:  Target creature is brought to edge of the field.
ART:
Original Art by Thalas. edited by Zblader
IDEA:
Darkrobe
NOTES:
Idea seems pretty self explanatory. :)

give water and light a new combative synergy, that is tied to one of waters weakest cards

still not entirely sure what the best stats are.
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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg439915#msg439915
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 02:09:02 am »
Loved it!! Brilliant. (npi)

It does kind of fight the Crawler for its place, and the unupgraded I think is strictly a better version than the Crawler, but in any case I would replace it with this entirely.

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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg439916#msg439916
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 02:17:23 am »
we can play around with the stats. I just love how it completely redoes the  :light :water healing synergy into a CC / offensive type synergy.

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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg439917#msg439917
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 02:35:41 am »
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It does kind of fight the Crawler for its place, and the unupgraded I think is strictly a better version than the Crawler, but in any case I would replace it with this entirely.


Problem solved! :P (You may use this art if you want to - original background is by Thalas)

For stats, you could try looking at this (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,21004.0.html) for a reference. If it conflicts too much with Crawler ATM I think that just means Crawler needs a buff or the unupped version of this could get -1 HP or -1 ATK.

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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg439920#msg439920
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 02:58:10 am »
How about these stats? Unupped it falls somewhere between crawler and toadfish. Upped it falls between crawler and Dragon.

Edit: I wanted to give it more attack because you want to play these on flooded spots, thus making them more expensive helps you play the cheap creatures first. and thank you for the art. :)

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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg439945#msg439945
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 04:20:10 am »
BRilliant! (No pun intended  :P) With the higher cost, i'm not sure how much this would be used instead of the current crawler
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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg439969#msg439969
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 07:17:33 am »
Very interesting idea! Perhaps we can finally see flooding used more often.

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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg440067#msg440067
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 05:03:58 pm »
Excellent work, DarkRobe! :D That's a synergy which :water need :D

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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg440069#msg440069
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 05:07:15 pm »
Question for y'all. Should the lure skill only be effecting underwater. or should the benefit of it being underwater be the cloaked. and it has the lure no matter what?

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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg440083#msg440083
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2011, 05:52:41 pm »
Question for y'all. Should the lure skill only be effecting underwater. or should the benefit of it being underwater be the cloaked. and it has the lure no matter what?
I think it should have to use it's skill always
isn't the upped version a bit strong?
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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg440165#msg440165
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 11:45:50 pm »
tweaked too much? or just right?

As far as the too strong... I think the cost was in range. i think it just looked strange cause it had increased attack and health. i lowered the health. now you really want to play them in combo with flooding to get the cloaked aspect.

previous wordings
When underwater, becomes cloaked and gains skill "Lure".
 :light : Lure:  Target creature is brought to edge of field.

Becomes cloaked while flooding is in effect.
:light : Lure:  Target creature is brought to edge of the field.

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Re: Angler | Deep Sea Angler https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34903.msg440268#msg440268
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2011, 05:14:24 am »
simply put, lure puts a creature into a flooded area, right? 2-card combo + off-element for instakill ain't so bad..  ^-^ ^-^ ^-^

 

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