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Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438494#msg438494
« on: December 14, 2011, 03:42:06 am »
NAME:
Acid
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Destroy the target permanent in three turns, deal 10 damage over three turns.
NAME:
Strong Acid
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Destroy the target permanent in two turns, deal 10 damage over two turns.
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NOTES:
this card destroys a target permanent, but takes a few turns to work.  in the process, the owner of the permanent being affected is damaged by a small amount as well.

the 10 damage is spread over the turns, it is not 10 damage each turn.
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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438496#msg438496
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2011, 03:48:21 am »
10 spread over 3 turns? 3 3 4? 4 3 3? hows it gonna be split?
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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438504#msg438504
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2011, 03:55:30 am »
something along those lines, it isnt terribly important, but being stronger at the beginning and losing strength throughout would thematically make sense so lets just go with 5-3-2 and 6-4, respectively.
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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438518#msg438518
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2011, 04:34:11 am »
I dunno. This card feels a little.....Strong.

Puns aside, it feels pretty powerful. PC and 10 damage? That's insanely useful. +1 to casting cost is my opinion.

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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438520#msg438520
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2011, 04:36:08 am »
the issue is that the permanent will remain usable for the player for 3 turns, 2 upgraded.  it isnt the instant boom that deflag gives for the same 3 quanta (2 upgraded).  and 10 damage over 3/2 turns could easily be obtained/surpassed from playing a creature like flesh recluse, which doesnt have a finite duration.
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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438561#msg438561
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2011, 07:24:05 am »
yay, :water PC!!! my face avatar-icon approves  8) 8)

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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438750#msg438750
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2011, 12:35:07 am »
Still, a relatively cheap water card guaranteeing 10 points of damage is pretty good, especially since it's coupled with permanent removal. The theme of this card would to be used in a stall deck, since it takes time for the acid to take it's full effect.

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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438758#msg438758
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2011, 01:43:37 am »
I think the card is balanced, fits into water well, and is a great idea.

Although I think that renaming it Acid | Base  would fit better, since a base is a strong acid.
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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438761#msg438761
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2011, 01:54:09 am »
"since a base is a strong acid."

acids and bases have to deal with the pH of a solution on a scale from 1-14 (7 being neutral, approximately the pH of H2O), a low pH (under 7) is acidic, very low pHs are strongly acidic (closer to 1 than 7).  bases have high pHs (over 7), strong bases have very high pHs (closer to 14 than 7) - this is all assuming i can still remember my chemistry from highschool and college.
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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438763#msg438763
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2011, 01:56:55 am »
I think the card is balanced, fits into water well, and is a great idea.

Although I think that renaming it Acid | Base  would fit better, since a base is a strong acid.
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An acid is a substance that accepts hydroxide ions, and a base is not a substance that accepts more hydroxide ions but a substance that accepts hydrogen ions.
An acid with a pH of 1 is more caustic than a base with a pH of 8.

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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438772#msg438772
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2011, 02:17:20 am »
lol. As the guys up already have said, Acid just means a hydrogen donor while a base is a hydrogen acceptor. How strong something's acidity or base is dependent on the pH level.

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Re: Acid | Strong Acid https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34768.msg438775#msg438775
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2011, 02:19:33 am »
Maybe base would be a new card whose only effect would be to get rid of acid.

The card looks nice btw, it's like infect but for permanents. Comparing with Unstable Gas, it seems balanced to me.
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