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Blending Prism | Blending Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg436900#msg436900
« on: December 10, 2011, 03:27:54 am »
NAME:
Blending Prism
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Whenever the opponent produces quanta, 50% matches their mark, 50% is distributed randomly.
NAME:
Blending Prism
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Whenever the opponent produces quanta, 50% matches their mark, 50% is distributed randomly.
ART:
Darkrobe
IDEA:
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NOTES:
Quanta denial for light.

Effective against all types of decks (rainbows, monos, whatever). but not overpoweringly so. This card messes with the production of quanta, whether from towers or from spells like supernova. And it works during your opponents turn so it bypasses the effects of sanctuary.

Example

The opponent is running a rainbow deck with an entropy mark. They play supernova. Instead of getting 2 or each element. they will get 12 entropy quanta and 12 random quanta. effectively cutting the power of super nova in half.

Monos with towers will see half of their production go into random quanta pools, limiting their play.

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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg436907#msg436907
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 04:03:47 am »
Interesting idea...pretty cool.   :)  I would change the word "inverted" though, just because the wording makes it seem like the ability means that pillars drain quanta rather than produce it.  Also, idk if this is what you meant or not, but maybe rather than transferring quanta to OTHER pools, it could be transferred to a RANDOM pool.  That way the opponent can still gain the quanta they want, albeit slowly.
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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg436911#msg436911
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 04:10:56 am »
Interesting idea...pretty cool.   :)  I would change the word "inverted" though, just because the wording makes it seem like the ability means that pillars drain quanta rather than produce it.  Also, idk if this is what you meant or not, but maybe rather than transferring quanta to OTHER pools, it could be transferred to a RANDOM pool.  That way the opponent can still gain the quanta they want, albeit slowly.
Sorry, That is what I meant. it gets converted to a RANDOM pool, it can still produce the quanta you want. Its hard to spell it out that way.

Do you have a better word than inverted? I think the idea is clear, The wording is kind of cumbersome.

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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg436913#msg436913
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 04:31:58 am »
Yeah, it's a great idea, no doubt.  I really like how unlike discord, it can still mess up rainbows!  The wording is hard to navigate in this case, I agree.  Hmm...I'll try to think of something.
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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg436925#msg436925
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 05:16:08 am »
The wording states it inverts all quanta production, not just that of your opponent, but all of it on your opponents turn. So dos this mean that scramble technically will take 10 quanta and dump it all into your mark because it is 10 "random quanta" generated during your opponents turn? Or did you specifically only mean opponents quanta?

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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg436927#msg436927
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011, 05:29:07 am »
The wording makes it sound like they'll be losing whatever quanta they would've generated. Call it something like "scattering prism". Supernovas would still generate 24  :rainbow quanta though :P

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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg436930#msg436930
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2011, 05:34:39 am »
The wording states it inverts all quanta production, not just that of your opponent, but all of it on your opponents turn. So dos this mean that scramble technically will take 10 quanta and dump it all into your mark because it is 10 "random quanta" generated during your opponents turn? Or did you specifically only mean opponents quanta?
I consider "production" to be different from what Scramble does, scramble thematically just moves it around. I hadnt thought about ways that produce quanta during your opponents turn. Solar shield is another example. I guess the wording might imply that quanta produced by your solar shield might be random or of a different element during your opponents turn.

I had originally meant your opponents quanta to the only thing messed with. But i hadnt thought through these random exceptions. Do you think I should change the wording to be more specific? or just add that in as a random side effect?

Edit:
The wording makes it sound like they'll be losing whatever quanta they would've generated. Call it something like "scattering prism". Supernovas would still generate 24  :rainbow quanta though :P <- why? I thought i explained super nova in the notes, 22 quanta matching mark, 2 random quanta

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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg436963#msg436963
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2011, 08:04:52 am »
I think it'd be interesting if you could play it on yourself, too. 

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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg437311#msg437311
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2011, 06:11:38 am »
true. but they way it works, it might be too powerfull if it would work on yourself. pack a bunch of quantum pillars instead of normal pillars, play this and multiply your quanta gain for monos.

Edit: anymore thoughts on the "inverting" wording problem?

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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg437316#msg437316
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2011, 06:25:19 am »
Just throwing this out there, but maybe you could change the word invert to disperse?
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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg437320#msg437320
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2011, 06:32:13 am »
Eh, that only captures half the mechanic. because if the quanta is already dispersed, it funnels it to one pools instead.

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Re: Inverting Prism | Inverting Prism https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34649.msg437326#msg437326
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2011, 06:42:58 am »
Hmm...good call.  Yeah it's pretty hard to find a word that captures both the dispersion aspect and condensing aspect.

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