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Graviton Barrier | Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg425952#msg425952
« on: November 15, 2011, 11:18:56 pm »
NAME:
Graviton Barrier
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
8 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: only creatures who normally could not attack, may attack. Lasts 4 turns.
NAME:
Graviton Bulwark
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
7 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
Shield: only creatures who normally could not attack, may attack. Lasts 4 turns.
ART:
Astrid
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NOTES:
Based on darkrobes Holtzman's Shield over which I had essentially done everything but the thematic and since the name was copyrighted and darkrobe already has cards in the crucible, I was given control of the card.

Creatures who could normally not attack include creatures who are frozen, delayed, or stopped by sundial or Shard of Patience. To all other creatures this is essentially a dimensional shield. This should provide the strong shield that Gravity needs and fall somewhere between dimensional shield and wings.
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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg425957#msg425957
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2011, 11:42:21 pm »
Hope those errors get fixed. wish i could tell you why they come up

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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg426078#msg426078
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2011, 04:21:50 am »
Well after a lot of tinkering I have a partial fix. Still...also as I said, feel free to comment people! Hopefully whats there now will be enough to get you the idea.
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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg426082#msg426082
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2011, 04:46:54 am »
Did you purposely leave out the image url?
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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg426083#msg426083
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2011, 04:51:17 am »
Did you purposely leave out the image url?
hes getting errors when he tries to post the whole table with pictures and description.

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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg426099#msg426099
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2011, 05:54:28 am »
Try this code. If this doesn't work then I have no idea what the problem is.
Code: [Select]
[table]
[tr][td][center][img width=289 height=443]http://[/img][/center][/td][td][center][img width=289 height=443]http://[/img][/center][/td][/tr]

[tr][td]
[table][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299]NAME: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
Graviton Barrier
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299][color=#C9C299] ELEMENT: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
Gravity
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299][color=#C9C299] COST: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
8 :gravity
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299][color=#C9C299] TYPE: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
Permanent
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299][color=#C9C299] ATK|HP: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]

[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299][color=#C9C299] TEXT: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
Shield: Only creatures who normally could not attack may attack. Lasts 4 turns.
[/td][/tr][/table]
[/td][td]
[table][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299]NAME: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
Graviton Barrier
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299][color=#C9C299] ELEMENT: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
Gravity
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299][color=#C9C299] COST: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
7 :gravity
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299][color=#C9C299] TYPE: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
Permanent
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299][color=#C9C299] ATK|HP: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]

[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299][color=#C9C299] TEXT: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
Shield: Only creatures who normally could not attack may attack. Lasts 4 turns.
[/td][/tr][/table]
[/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][td][table][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] ART: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]

[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] IDEA: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
Naesala
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] NOTES: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
Based on darkrobes Holtzman's Shield over which I had essentially done everything but the thematic and since the name was copyrighted and darkrobe already has cards in the crucible, I was given control of the card.

Creatures who could normally not attack include creatures who are frozen, delayed, or stopped by sundial. To all other creatures this is essentially a dimensional shield. This should provide the strong shield that Gravity needs and fall somewhere between dimensional shield and wings.
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] SERIES: [/color][/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]

[/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table]
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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg426102#msg426102
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2011, 06:17:15 am »
We have working tables! Seriously, I have no idea why that was so hard. ANyways, on to talking about the card itself!
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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg426105#msg426105
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2011, 06:30:08 am »
There were undetected typos in the original table code. Don't ask me where though. I didn't detect them. :))

Momentum would ignore this shield effect correct?
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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg426113#msg426113
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2011, 06:55:01 am »
Yeah, we came to the conclusion that we didnt want to mess around with blocking the unblockable.
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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg432959#msg432959
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2011, 08:43:16 pm »
Bump. Does this still need work? Is it ready to move on? is it to out there and need to be scrapped?
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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg432964#msg432964
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2011, 08:52:35 pm »
I think it's an interesting variation on the "timed shields" idea that falls somewhere between Phase Shield and Wings. However, it feels like there are very few cards that can counter this ( :earth:time:water have ~5 cards total that can make a creature attack without possibly killing it), but lasts one more turn than Phase Shield. I think those factors balance out, but others may have a different opinion.

EDIT : And Gravity too, but that works on all shields. Not sure if that counts.

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Re: Graviton Barrier|Graviton Bulwark https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33772.msg432969#msg432969
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2011, 09:00:37 pm »
When this was darkrobes I made this list:
cards to deal with 3 turn dim shield: 2 from one element+potentially any creature
momentum (can be applid to any creature)
saphiric charger

cards to deal with 4 turn holtzman: 8 from 4 elements + potentially all creatures
Freeze (can be applied to any creature)
Arctic octopus (can be applied to any creature)
iridium warden(can be applied to any creature)
basilisk blood (can be applied to any creature)
sundial (will be applied to all creatures)
chaos seed (sometimes) (any creature)
pandemonium (sometimes) (all creatures)
Shard of Patience (all creatures)

cards to deal with 5 turn wings: 30 from all elements
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Maxwell Demon
Vulture
Virus
Rustler
Forest Spirit
Fire Spirit
Phoenix
Photon
Pegasus
Angel
Wyrm
Firefly Queen
Firefly
Deja Vu
Scarab
Gargoyle
Vampire
Spark

It may still need some balancing, but I feel it's fair. Plus this is more expensive than dimensional shield, and mono grav is much weaker than mono aether
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