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Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415519#msg415519
« on: October 25, 2011, 09:23:12 am »
NAME:
Death Adder
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 5
TEXT:
:time : Neurotoxic Bite
Add 1 poison damage to the target creature, 1 extra poison per skill use.
NAME:
Death Adder
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
4 | 5
TEXT:
:time : Neurotoxic Bite
Add 1 poison damage to the target creature, 1 extra poison per skill use.
ART:
http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=42703 (http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=42703) - temporary
IDEA:
Xenocidius
NOTES:
An interesting creature that uses a creature-oriented version of the neurotoxin effect. A yellow poison icon is added to the affected creature. 1 poison counter is gained every time the creature uses its active, triggered skill.
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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415520#msg415520
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2011, 09:29:36 am »
ooh, i like it, very useful against growing creatures (and stacks of other things...)

my only problem is the difference between the upgrade, personally i reckon that the +2 attack is a bit much...
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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415531#msg415531
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2011, 11:04:29 am »

name might needs some love XD

why death adder?

i like both versions.. weird  :time :death card, though..

why  :time ? yes i get the neurotoxin from dune scorp, but it could be other elements, too

i mean, poisoning the brain? hmmm... i think i heard of mind-based abilities from non- :time elements.. *coughAethercough*

but time would work, too.. just giving out alternatives here  :) :) :) :)

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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415547#msg415547
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2011, 12:21:06 pm »
name might needs some love XD

why death adder?

i like both versions.. weird  :time :death card, though..

why  :time ? yes i get the neurotoxin from dune scorp, but it could be other elements, too

i mean, poisoning the brain? hmmm... i think i heard of mind-based abilities from non- :time elements.. *coughAethercough*

but time would work, too.. just giving out alternatives here  :) :) :) :)
I agree time isn't the right that's more to let somthing evolve or hatch, but maybe  :death would be to OP.
And maybe you can call the upped version Death snake or Death basilisk.
But I like the idea and the picture.
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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415551#msg415551
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2011, 12:42:22 pm »
i like it. with some minor tweaks i think it could be a real good card.

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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415634#msg415634
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2011, 04:56:09 pm »
Although the combination is a little weird and may limit its use, seem a bit powerful.

Looking at the poison counter and cumulative damage dealt:
TurnPoison CounterCumulative Damage
111
234
3610
By the end of the third turn, the enemy creature would have been dealt 10 damage total, with almost no chance to survive the next turn.
Additionally, the upped 'death adder' would be able to be played as an offensive creature (player damage), in addition to cc.

I would suggest raising the cost of the unupped card to 5 :death and decrease the upped version's attack to 2.
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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415657#msg415657
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2011, 05:48:36 pm »
Poison (counters) on creatures is (are) called Infection (counters).

Did you mean each use of the Infected creature's skill will increase that creature's Infection? (just to make sure I understood)

You did compare this to Parasite|Bloodsucker correct?
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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415787#msg415787
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2011, 12:16:42 am »
Question; 'Add 1 poison damage to the target creature, 1 extra poison per skill use.' it says 'use' so would that include venom? Venom is considered a active skill after all, even if you don't activate it.

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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415793#msg415793
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2011, 12:45:28 am »
Question; 'Add 1 poison damage to the target creature, 1 extra poison per skill use.' it says 'use' so would that include venom? Venom is considered a active skill after all, even if you don't activate it.
^ Don't really understand what the question is. I have been assuming that skill = ability = creature's neurotoxin bite.
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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415797#msg415797
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2011, 12:51:35 am »
Poison (counters) on creatures is (are) called Infection (counters).

Did you mean each use of the Infected creature's skill will increase that creature's Infection? (just to make sure I understood)

You did compare this to Parasite|Bloodsucker correct?
Yes, each use of the creature's active, triggered skill. I did compare it to Parasite, though in retrospect the cost could probably be lowered.

Fun: Death Adders in real life are known for their completely neurotoxic venom.
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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415806#msg415806
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2011, 01:20:30 am »
Poison (counters) on creatures is (are) called Infection (counters).

Did you mean each use of the Infected creature's skill will increase that creature's Infection? (just to make sure I understood)

You did compare this to Parasite|Bloodsucker correct?
Yes, each use of the creature's active, triggered skill. I did compare it to Parasite, though in retrospect the cost could probably be lowered.

Fun: Death Adders in real life are known for their completely neurotoxic venom.
Actually I feel the costs are spot on. (+2 casting cost, +1 attack, +4hp, improved skill) I just wanted to make sure I was using the same model creature as you.
Does "Active, Triggered" include abilities triggered by attacking/damaging or just those that require player activation?
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Re: Death Adder | Death Adder https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32896.msg415811#msg415811
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2011, 01:25:23 am »
Question; 'Add 1 poison damage to the target creature, 1 extra poison per skill use.' it says 'use' so would that include venom? Venom is considered a active skill after all, even if you don't activate it.
Many skills are considered in this way (Vampire, bioluminescence, Phoenix, ect.) but the notes of this card refer to only a skill's intentional activation, similar to Dune Scorpion's Neurotoxin, punishing the player for utilizing their cards (Or skills, in this case).
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