Equilibrium | Equilibrium

[mildlyfrightenedboy]

NAME: Equilibrium ELEMENT: Aether COST: 4  TYPE: Spell TEXT: The target creature's total ATK and HP becomes a constant value.	NAME: Equilibrium ELEMENT: Aether COST: 3 TYPE: Spell TEXT: The target creature's total ATK and HP becomes a constant value.

ART: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1319070 IDEA: MildlyFrightenedBoy & http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8385.msg104312#msg104312 NOTES: This card seems like it would be a lot of fun. NOTES: If a creature with Gravity Pull is targeted with Equilibrium, Gravity Pull is removed.  If a creature with Equilibrium gains Gravity Pull, Equilibrium is removed.  This is to prevent the Voodoo Doll + Basilisk's Blood + Gravity Pull + Equilibrium combo that is possible otherwise. Equilibrium is a passive skill.  It does not remove any skill when gained. Explanation: The creature is marked with a  symbol (like the  symbol for Immortality) designating that it has Equilibrium.  If a creature has Equilibrium, the total of its stats will always remain the same as is was when the creature gained Equilibrium.  That number is officially hard-wired into its DNA until it dies or is lobotomized. If a creature with Equilibrium has 6 | 6, its total is 12.  If it were to take 3 damage, it now has 6 | 3 and a total of nine.  Its total HP and ATK is no longer 12, so, to keep the total the same, it gains 3 ATK, and now has 9 | 3. Here is an incomplete list of the effect of a few of the more interesting stat changes with Equilibrium: Lightning (regularly 0/-5) = +5/-5. Basilisk Blood (regularly 0/+20) = -20/+20. Acceleration (regularly +2 or +3/-1 per turn) = +1/-1 or +2/-2 per turn. Antimatter (regularly (X*-1)/(0)) = -2*X/+2*X. (X is the original attack power.) Rage Potion and Elixir works the same as it normally does. Momentum, Nightfall, and Blessing have no effect.  (The buffs cancel out each other.) Eclipse (regularly +2/+1 for all  or  ) = +1/-1 for all  or  . About the element: I picked Aether mainly for two reasons: Aether is about balance. Aether is not Gravity. Using this on a flown Titan or an Armagio with Gravity Pull would rain hell upon everything in sight.  Once it becomes very strong, you can TU it and then you can save it or use Gravity Pull on something else with less attack power.  If it was Gravity, it would be ultra-broken.  Not that it isn't in its current state, but... I can fix that later. Well, I have turned buffs into CC and CC into buffs.  There you go.

[Captain Scibra]

This and BB looks FUN.

[moomoose]

i take it you havent seen celestial tiger before?

[mildlyfrightenedboy]

i take it you havent seen celestial tiger before?

No (no link), but, from what I gather, it's a creature with this as a skill, and this is a spell.

EDIT: Confirmed my guess.  It is in the Archive, so does that mean that I have to include a link to it under "Idea"?  I'm not sure what the policy is for archived ideas being reworked, if you can call it "reworking" when I have never seen the card before.

While Celestial Tiger is limited because the effect is only for that sole creature, this spell is more versatile because it can be used on opponent's creatures to manipulate their stats as you wish.  Celestial Tiger could really only be used to pair with Fractal, hit with some CC, and deal damage quickly.  Because this can be applied to any (targetable) creature, you can use it to manipulate enemy creatures (lots of Basilisk's Blood, and you can heal yourself for hundreds each turn) or to simply use it on a creature with higher stats (flying Titan + Gravity Pull + this) to maximize the capabilities.

Here's the link for anyone else reading this:
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,8385.msg104312#msg104312

It seems to be a recurring theme; pulling up ideas similar to pre-existing ones.  Banshee, Infinity, and now this.  Eh, I guess that I will have to stick to ridiculously complicated ideas that I can safely assume that no (sane) person has already thought of.

[moomoose]

or you could come up with *novel* ideas and not reworkings of cards already in the system.  whenever it was pointed out that one of my card ideas had been done before, or was very similar to an existing card, rather than trying to come up with reasons that they arent the same, i would either scrap or revamp the concept.  i expect the same out of anyone else who wants to say they came up with an idea.  if someone else came up with it before you- you didn't.

[Kuroaitou]

CURATOR COMMENT

Your card idea has been moved up, BUT after reviewing the other idea, it is asked that you cite that card idea within the IDEA section of your table.

While I automatically sort of 'sensed' that your mechanic has been done before, I know that you're relatively new around here and you most likely had no idea who PhantomFox was. That being said, it's pretty much impossible to NOT accidentally create a card idea that's similar to someone else's. Your card in itself is technically 'different' enough (it's a spell, it can be used on any creature given the appropriate requirements, other details, etc.), but in the offshoot that Zanz uses this idea, I'd have to give credit where it was originally due.

One thing that you -could- do to make this fairly distinct is if it was apply to all creatures on your field (like an AOE effect) or if it could only affect creatures with certain stats (like Butterfly Effect). But those are just opinions.

or you could come up with *novel* ideas and not reworkings of cards already in the system.  whenever it was pointed out that one of my card ideas had been done before, or was very similar to an existing card, rather than trying to come up with reasons that they arent the same, i would either scrap or revamp the concept.  i expect the same out of anyone else who wants to say they came up with an idea.  if someone else came up with it before you- you didn't.

I know you're still bitter about the whole Blue Mage/Trickster card issue, but put the blame on me for sending it up to the Crucible/Forge to begin with. MFB is still relatively new with the CIA scene, so you don't have to be so territorial about your concepts. Not everyone has the knowledge, time, or meticulous memory to find and avoid 'copying' (creating ideas without knowing it's been done before) ideas from other card makers.

[moomoose]

the point of levels 1-3 is to advance ideas through, this idea has already been submitted, albeit slightly different, the concept is very much the same.  and with the limitation of 18 cards per month per element in level 1, it is likely that this card will be knocking out a novel idea from staying in the system.  if i were you, id tell people who submit ideas which have been pointed out as too similar to someone elses' preexisting one "sorry, you need to modify this more in order to distinguish it from X in order for it to be considered for level 1", or if it is found not to be possible to change it up, simply disallow it's entry, but that's me.

[mildlyfrightenedboy]

Here:

the point of levels 1-3 is to advance ideas through, this idea has already been submitted, albeit slightly different, the concept is very much the same.  and with the limitation of 18 cards per month per element in level 1, it is likely that this card will be knocking out a novel idea from staying in the system.  if i were you, id tell people who submit ideas which have been pointed out as too similar to someone elses' preexisting one "sorry, you need to modify this more in order to distinguish it from X in order for it to be considered for level 1", or if it is found not to be possible to change it up, simply disallow it's entry, but that's me.

From http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32277.msg436736#msg436736

the point was that you couldnt fit a new mechanic on the card, which is not acceptable.  its one thing for a card like pest to have burrow thrown in and not re-explained, everyone knows what it is, what it does, etc.  but this is a new mechanic, if you cannot adequately sum up the mechanic on the face of the card so people can have some kind of an idea of what it does, simplify it or start over.  my 2

From http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,32276.msg436713#msg436713

Not exactly, but pretty close.
-"sort of like"

"You can use Fire Shield, and you can take out and Anubises or permanents that are not made immaterial the turn that they are played."
-they have decent hp, and SoR removes the one turn wait.

"However, I have never seen your creature, and it doesn't seem to share much of a relation other than using the number of immaterial creatures as a base value."
- that's pretty much the key feature of each card.

Can you please be a little less... vicious... with your comments please?
Kuroaitou is right; I haven't read every single page in every single section of the CIA page, especially not the archives.  I'm not really sure what I did to make you lecture me on the tiniest flaw in everything that I do here, but, while I accept constructive criticism, I don't really deal well with people typing up a long rebuttal without knowing all of the facts beforehand (Channeled Dark Energy) or claiming that my card is a waste of space (see above).  The post directly above this one really should have been a PM to Kuroaitou or whoever it is who decides how the CIA page is run.  This thread isn't really the place to argue whether or not the card should have been let into the Crucible or throw around general terms like what the point of CIA is.  That's a private discussion and should stay between you and Kuroaitou, not on the thread for people to discuss the merits and flaws of the idea.

[moomoose]

i dont care if you have read every page or not, when its pointed out to your attention, thats when it should be changed and dropped.

and less 'vicious' to the person who said "Your argument is invalid.  My avatar claps slowly for you." to someone? nah, i think my tone is appropriate for you.

[mildlyfrightenedboy]

i dont care if you have read every page or not, when its pointed out to your attention, thats when it should be changed and dropped.

and less 'vicious' to the person who said "Your argument is invalid.  My avatar claps slowly for you." to someone? nah, i think my tone is appropriate for you.

Here's the post that Moomoose is referring to, by the way:

Lame overpowered with Nightfall

Overpowered with Nightfall?... OH GOD NO, its a 2 | 6 for a total of 6  (or 7  ) and 3  .  WHAT WILL WE DO
Two elite mummies would be better than that (if the stats are your problem) for the same cost and number of cards and no .  Your argument is invalid.  My avatar claps slowly for you.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=13644;area=showposts;start=0
Well, for starters, if you go to Hello12's posts (the link directly above this), you will see that 99% of the posts that he has made have been one-sentence, irrelevant comments in part of a struggle to get a high forum rank as quickly as possible.  I noticed this a while ago.
Second, he claimed that a creature that I clearly intended to be used because of the skill, not because of the stats (1 | 5) was "Lame overpowered with Nightfall" (forgive me for quoting the entire post ). 
The card and his input clearly don't matter to him; he only posted to increase his post count, and he deserved to be ridiculed for that. 
I know that I am only justifying something that I did in the past, but I wanted to explain Moomoose's post to other people reading this page now that it is in the Crucible, and will probably remain near the top as long as Moomoose keeps bumping it with an argument that I have said prior to this does not belong on my card's page and should be moved elsewhere, preferably to a PM conversation if you feel the need to.  My intention is not to clear my name of the post in question, but to point out my reasoning to people reading this thread expecting to find information on the card, not a bitter bitch session.

EDIT: (in response to the post immediately after this)
You clearly don't understand that I do not want any more posts on my card's page regarding whether or not you like me for whatever reason it may be (bitterness over the incident that Kuroaitou referred to or simply malice, spite, and sadism).  I will spell it out clearly for you:

Please do not post something here that is not about the card.  Posts that are not about the card do not belong here.  This is a place for posting about the card and nothing else.
This is Card Ideas & Art, not Card Ideas, Art, & Taking Out your Misplaced Anger on Others.

However, you probably wont see this because you don't care about the card, just the bitter argument at hand, and won't return to this page unless you see a post with my name on it.
I will keep this to one Gran Torino quote: Get off my lawn.

[moomoose]

ill keep this to one line- i dont like you, i probably never will, so i will talk to you as i see fit.

[Chapuz]

So if I make a rainbow i can make Voodoo Doll + Basilisk Blood + BB + BB + BB + BB + Equilibrium + Gravity Pull. The result is a 120 HP doll. When damaged, it's oponent is equally damaged PLUS the doll gets the attak equal as it's damage. Ohh my god, Needs to be canceled with gravity pull. Then /i can imagine another rainbow deck with this combo: Voodoo Doll + buffs + Equilibrium + CC targeted to the doll. That's really funny and not over powered. Dude... I love it, but please cancel efect with Gravity pull.