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Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg381316#msg381316
« on: August 17, 2011, 05:35:04 pm »
NAME:
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COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|6
TEXT:
Quilled: If damaged, deal 2 damage to that source. Retract 0: Reduce attack to 0 and remove Quilled.
NAME:
Giant Porcupine
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
4 :earth
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|10
TEXT:
Quill Shooter: If damaged, deal 3 damage to that source. Retract 0: Reduce attack to 0 and remove Quill Shooter.
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If anyone has better art befitting a Giant Porcupine, please tell me.
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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg381328#msg381328
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2011, 06:00:46 pm »
I've been thinking up similar ideas, however, in this one, maybe it could be simplified to; "If Porcupine receives damage, 2 damage is dealt to the source."  This keeps gravity pull as an option, but adds other uses.  So if a spell like Lightning is cast on Porcupine, the player who cast it receives 2 damage.

I also think this card is especially expensive for what it does, and still a bit too expensive with the modification I made.

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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg381337#msg381337
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2011, 06:13:06 pm »
I've been thinking up similar ideas, however, in this one, maybe it could be simplified to; "If Porcupine receives damage, 2 damage is dealt to the source."  This keeps gravity pull as an option, but adds other uses.  So if a spell like Lightning is cast on Porcupine, the player who cast it receives 2 damage.

I also think this card is especially expensive for what it does, and still a bit too expensive with the modification I made.
I originally had the cost 5 : 4, but when i changed the upped damage to 3 ad gave it more defense than i had planned, I thought 4 wouldn't work anymore.
So what do you think would be an appropriate cost with your suggested change?
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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg381703#msg381703
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 05:12:49 pm »
It essentially is a card that punishes the opponent for using shields like Fire Shield or a weaker Armagio that takes any 10> ATK creature down with it with 2 cards.

I would make the unupped ability same as the upped (If damaged, deal 3 damage to that source.), and lower the upped cost to 5 :earth . It might even work with a cost of 4 :earth , but that's up to you.

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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg381749#msg381749
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 06:15:28 pm »
Card has been updated.
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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg381755#msg381755
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 06:30:07 pm »
Great idea imo, it fits :earth well and porcupines own!

Still a bit expensive though imo... So I don't know if it  would fit into alot of strategies, neither would it start alot of new strategies. Either way, the idea is nice!

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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg381758#msg381758
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 06:36:43 pm »
Great idea imo, it fits :earth well and porcupines own!

Still a bit expensive though imo... So I don't know if it  would fit into alot of strategies, neither would it start alot of new strategies. Either way, the idea is nice!
What would be a better cost?
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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg381931#msg381931
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2011, 02:04:39 am »
Okay, so I can see if a creature deals damage to this, the creature takes damage back, but what if something like Eagle Eye or Fire Shield hurts it?  I'm assuming the player controlling the EE or FS would take damage also.

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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg381932#msg381932
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 02:07:15 am »
Okay, so I can see if a creature deals damage to this, the creature takes damage back, but what if something like Eagle Eye or Fire Shield hurts it?  I'm assuming the player controlling the EE or FS would take damage also.
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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg385984#msg385984
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2011, 09:07:26 pm »
Bump. Cost has been lowered from 4 | 5 to 3 | 4.

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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg386115#msg386115
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2011, 04:41:02 am »
basically, a stronger fireshield if you put grav pull + BB, right?
how about raising the cost? fire shield costs 6 :fire|4 :fire...
why not raise this to 4 :earth|5 :earth or even higher?
you know, because  :earth can generate  :earth quanta fairly easy (gnome gemfinder)
looks awesome though..

or better yet, why not make it a  :earth /:life duo card?? one element for putting down the creature, and another element
for activating its quill?? screw this idea if it sucks, i' just too  :rainbow-oriented.. XD



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Re: Porcupine | Giant Porcupine https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29979.msg386119#msg386119
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2011, 05:03:04 am »
I like the concept and the card.
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