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A Better Way to Pestal - Jen-i's Entropy Trials Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29127.msg371732#msg371732
« on: July 26, 2011, 02:02:33 pm »
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I've been playing around with this deck since arena was in beta - and have made just under 60k score and a similar amount of electrum since then. In the couple hours it took me to make these wins I collected over 6k electrum - the deck makes money.

Pros of this deck:
  • The deck is really fast to get its lock
  • The deck has lots of denial tools - repeatable PC is huge
  • EM's in platinum are not uncommon
Cons of this deck:
  • The deck is weak to a popular deck type - immorush
  • It is not rare for the deck to have "failure to launch"
  • Games are long
Like a standard denial deck this deck attempts to shutdown your opponent's quanta production and starve them to death. I said this deck is really fast - and I meant it. The deck is capable of a turn 2 fractal and play of 4 Pests and an EQ - while that's not common it is an incredible speed to acquire a lock. Turn 3 or 4 is much more common - unfortunately with all that speed comes some inherent instability. As I said "failure to launch" is not uncommon - in any 30 card PSNdeck (Pendulum-Supernova) you have a 12.5% chance of not drawing a Supernova in your first 8 cards - add the fact that stall decks have key cards they need early and we're looking at possibly 20% of games where you don't get that early SN and Pest - however with the other denial tools you have available: Earthquake, Explosion & Pandemonium - you can often survive long enough to still acquire an early game lock and get the win. It tells you something about stability that I got my Platinum wins in 45 minutes - my bronze ones in about the same - and it took me 2 hours to get my wins in silver or gold.

Like most things in Elements this deck is a trade off - speed for stability - and game length for EM potential - games with this deck are long - the 2 vampires are the only damage cards in the deck - a fractal or 2 will give you a lot more of them - but you can't start to damage your opponent until you've drawn one of them - that said I only lost 1 game to being decked out while attempting this task. The trade off for a long game is that upwards of 80% of my wins are EM's - that at least is payoff for a game taking so long. The game does speed up slightly once you achieve lock - the AI has few cards it can play - its not all that uncommon to finish a game with the AI having not a single card in play - even in Platinum.

The biggest frustration with the deck is its vulnerability to immorush - I find I've been cycling the deck in my grinding rotation in Platinum and Gold - depending on what decks are prevalent each day. It's been feeling to me like there is a cycle between immorush decks and stall decks - this deck does very well facing stall decks - even firestall  - but wins are hard to come by against immorush.

I hope the deck brings you cash and success in grinding in the arena!
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Re: A Better Way to Pestal - Jen-i's Entropy Trials Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29127.msg371734#msg371734
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 02:05:46 pm »
Ahaha!  I created a similar unupped version as a possibility to use during the War for Team Aether.  One thing that I found useful was Discord but maybe that was just because of the unupped playing atmosphere I had devised it for.  Looks pretty sweet from where I sit.
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Re: A Better Way to Pestal - Jen-i's Entropy Trials Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29127.msg371896#msg371896
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 08:36:18 pm »
Thanks willy I never really considered discord although it is a good fit. I've been using pulvy a lot in place of one BE but I will see how discord works in there
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Re: A Better Way to Pestal - Jen-i's Entropy Trials Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29127.msg371899#msg371899
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2011, 08:40:31 pm »
holy hell! that deck is sexy, i see why you didnt want to tell me.
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Re: A Better Way to Pestal - Jen-i's Entropy Trials Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29127.msg371903#msg371903
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2011, 08:53:57 pm »
Jen-i that deck looks great, I'll try it for sure :)
Good luck in trials also <3
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2011, 10:34:59 pm »
I love this deck so much.
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Re: A Better Way to Pestal - Jen-i's Entropy Trials Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29127.msg371953#msg371953
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2011, 10:53:06 pm »
Can you add a shield into this? A fog, a skull...heck, even a tower? Or would it not fit/do anything to improve the win-rate...

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Re: A Better Way to Pestal - Jen-i's Entropy Trials Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29127.msg371995#msg371995
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2011, 12:27:05 am »
I was running skull buckler before trials instead of panda and it is an improvement
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2011, 12:31:04 am »
Oh! Cool deck. I haven't really played around with the Pestals, but this looks good. Skull Buckler looks fun for this deck, too.
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Re: A Better Way to Pestal - Jen-i's Entropy Trials Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=29127.msg374255#msg374255
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2011, 11:07:33 am »
The fusion of the shutdown and Pestal is a nice enough idea. My own version switch a pest for a parasite and the purify for a trident. Good work and good luck man.

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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2011, 09:55:30 pm »
I would also like to see the purify's explanation
Purify is for the poison-based decks that pop up in Arena every now and then.
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