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like a bow (think madgab) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27362.msg347864#msg347864
« on: June 08, 2011, 09:40:37 am »
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i put in some high health creatures and even a healing one, in hopes that cc wont completely kill this deck like most other speedbows. i noticed there aren't many (if at all) speedbows featuring lycans, so i made this one.
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Re: like a bow (think madgab) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27362.msg347935#msg347935
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2011, 02:56:37 pm »
There is a reason most Speedbow don't put in lycan's XD. They have 1 hp which is really annoying (and they don't deliver damage on turn 1)

I understand the way you chose creatures, but they also costs a lot of quanta which you can't easily aford with only supernova's You need 3 supernova's or more for 5 creatures. That Ghost of the past costs 7  :time! Because of that you need 4 supernova's to play it (not even talking about the costs for graboids). So it is a dead card almost always (because it is a speed deck and will win before it has gathered 4 supernova's).

The Destroyer also costs 5 (3 supernova's) which is a bit much (if you have played minor phoenix before you get the destroyer, you need again 4 supernova's before you can play the destroyer).


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Re: like a bow (think madgab) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27362.msg347947#msg347947
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2011, 03:37:31 pm »
looks like a solid deck but here are some thaughts:
you want it a bit deffensive with creature hp right? then don't take lycans, they start with only 1 hp and you might get short on darkness quanta this way, you also look a bit heavy on time quanta with expensive ghosts and 3 graboids so i'd change that part a bit to.
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Re: like a bow (think madgab) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27362.msg347957#msg347957
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2011, 04:20:30 pm »
I'd have to agree with most of what's been stated here:  Currently there seems to be a few quanta issues from creatures having too high of a cost/too much of one element being used at the moment.

I quite honestly have never been a real fan of Werewolves in my Speedbows because they either interfere with the quanta I need for Supernova (this really doesn't help when I'm grinding while half-asleep...) and they don't give a very good amount of damage over time for their price (plus the wolves being an easy target for CC makes things even more difficult).

If you're particularly attached to the idea of centering this deck around Werewolves, then I'd consider switching out at least 2 for 2 Chaos Powers.  This helps to keep your Werewolves and other creatures safe from CC more often than before.  By doing this you've freed up 2 :darkness for you to use.  I'd then suggest taking out the Jade Staff and putting in a Vampire Dagger.

Typically when I'm running Speedbows without Quantum Towers I try to keep the maximum quanta used by each element (besides the element matching your Mark and the Towers/Pendulums you're using) limited to 6.  Any more than that and you'd need 4 Supernova to play all of the cards that require quanta from that element, which is usually very hard to do.

If you choose to follow my 6 quanta rule, then right now you have 2 elements that need fixing:  Fire and Time.
For :time, GotP is far too expensive here.  You have several options with what to replace it with.  I personally have an affinity for Giant Frogs, but Precognition and a few other cards would work great here too.
For :fire, you've got Minor Phoenix, Lava Destroyer and UG fighting over that quanta.  I'd probably get rid of the Minor Phoenix since Lava Destroyer is such a heavy hitter and UG is a very, very useful card.  I'd advise switching that Minor Phoenix to an Elite Charger since you're not using any :gravity here.

You shouldn't run into too many quanta issues if you choose to follow these revisions.
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Re: like a bow (think madgab) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27362.msg347994#msg347994
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2011, 05:59:45 pm »
Most creatures haves low hp...1 hit is enought for 1 creature,that heal creature is expensive and TU is expensive too.Good idea for an anti CC deck,but i think GotP for 2 Reverse time will work.
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Re: like a bow (think madgab) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27362.msg348047#msg348047
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2011, 07:38:57 pm »
*sigh* i guess i should swap out the lycans for something :\ i was just trying to show it some needed love (it doesnt get enough). hm.... i kinda want the high cost creatures to stay in there, but idk how to keep it a rush then... maybe make it not a rush? but not a stall at the same time. kinda a pvp-ish kinda thing?
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Re: like a bow (think madgab) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27362.msg348392#msg348392
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2011, 08:06:51 am »
Wut why shards ? you're not supposed to play a rushy deck ?
This just slow your deck.. I you wanna win vs rush just put some cc (I think about -4 shards +4 lightning and -1 PU +1 precog -1phoenix +1 charger)
did you seen that you need too much fire quanta with this deck ?
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