Which FGs we can quanta lock (1 element at least) using Pulvy?

[Marvaddin]

Well, I usually use CCYB to fight FGs, and so I use Pulverizer as weapon. I have realized that some FGs may not have that many towers of an element, and so destroying these in the early game can make things much easier (you avoid some pesky cards and probably flood its hand, reducing draw rate). So I have created this thread to share and get more info about this.

(Obs: lets admit, no point in destroy towers that are same element of the mark.)

I think the best example of this is Gemini. He usually dont have many Gravity towers (his mark is aether), and an earliy Pulvy can turn off his Dragons. This is not very difficult to do, and is something I consider a goal when facing him.

Other is Elidnis. She uses 3 elements, and usually dont get much aether towers. Destroying them will make harder to play TU on her biggest Spectre.

Its harder, but its also possible to lock Decay's aether quanta.

Which other FGs you think its possible to lock an element?

[ralouf]

With decay if you have a sanctuary in play you can fractal hi spest and quanta lock him while pulvy destroy towers.

Elidnis can be easy locked first detroy water (2/3 specter aren't dangerous) then aether

VsGemini you can cut his gravity tower

If neptune has a bad hand with a couple of tower you can kill all his water tower

Miracle can loose all his green tower but that's useless; you can prevent him from playing air cards though but I usually destroy his light tower to prevent miracle.

[Marvaddin]

Lock Water vs Elidnis is possible, I did it already, but its way harder than lock Aether. She usually draws too muh Water towers so it doesnt work.

I have locked Neptune too, good point, but its not common.

Another difficult one is lock Fire for Divine Glory. Its very hard because in 1 turn 1 Tower generates quanta for 2 explosions, and Pulvy has a high priority, but it is possible.

About Miracle, yep, usually Air is easier. But I dont even try locking Light. Too much towers and Mark for just 12 quanta. You need kill him in 2 turns, and usually we dont have enough damage. Its better to play Fractal and do a "surprise" killing attack, or if you have enough time, let him use 2-3 Miracles and win.

Any FG we forgot?

[Onizuka]

Serket can be life/death denied if he doesn't draw early cloaks.

It's also possible to deny paradox of aether, deny lionheart of light (although no point).

[eaedyan]

Chaos Lord cant really be quanta locked with pulvy, but if you target his quantum towers early, his dissipation shield will kill his quanta for several turns after.  Since he has no other perms, its somewhat effective

[SteppingStone81]

One obvious problem is that FGs can draw two cards / turn, so pulvy might be insufficient to deny quanta.  I wonder if a pulvy / EQ / black hole duo could start denial fast enough to shut down some false gods, though?

[Marvaddin]

You really can deny Paradox Aether, good point.

About Serket, I played him just a few times and dunno if its possible, but I will try.

Deny Lionheart Light? I dont think its possible, he has sick draw rate.

About Chaos Lord, Im sure Pulvy cant deny his quanta. You can use his shield to do drain the quanta, but at this point is much easier to destroy the shield and win.

SS, Pulvy can deny quanta, but of course not for all FGs and not for all elements of a given FG. But it works, and doing that is a must vs Elidnis, for example. I target her towers before her Bonds. Look at this game:



I started denying Water, she got just 1 tower in starting hand. Then I destroyed the Bonds. When she played the 2nd Dragon, I destroyed her Aether towers, too. I was lucky, usually would be able to deny 1 element, and this game I could deny 2

[Marvaddin]

Ok, coming back to this.

I got a quanta lock victory vs Neptune:



However, in most games this looks not possible, so it seems a not reliable strategy.

Also denied Gravity quanta from Dark Matter, that's pretty fun, but its also not reliable.



Looks like almost all FGs can have their quanta denied if they get bad draws. If you realize the chance, go for it. I also tried deny Light from Lionheart, like I had imagined, not possible. It slows him, but soon his draw rate will bring to play several light towers, more than you could destroy.

For now, reliable strategies:
- deny Aether from Elidnis (Water is also possible, but harder).
- deny Gravity from Gemini
- deny Aether from Scorpio (lol, he has just some Aether towers, should be very easy)
- deny Air or Life (harder) from Miracle
- deny Aether from Paradox? (need to test it more)

Now Im using a Mind Flayer in my CCYB. I use him to deny Light quanta from FGs that get Light from RoLs to play Miracle, like Incarnate and Paradox. Vs Paradox its really useful, because it will also avoid their blessings. Considering Mind Flayer is not a target to their TUs, you can play it without quint asap.

On other hand, now I dont use FFQ to boost my Destroyer Fractal, so I really needed to destroy some Light Towers from Miracle FG and Bones from BWs using my Pulvy

[Xenocidius]

You can deny Lionheart of by destroying his Quantum Towers. This is very important if you can't PA your Pulvy, as this has higher endowing priority than Eternity.

[Marvaddin]

Good point, I have realized it too. Could also work if your weapon is Trident. If Im correct, it also has higher priority than Eternity.